The Threat of Authoritarianism in the U.S. is Very Real, and Has Nothing To Do With Trump

Glenn Greenwald

The COVID-driven centralization of economic power and information control in the hands of a few corporate monopolies poses enduring threats to political freedom.

Asserting that Donald Trump is a fascist-like dictator threatening the previously sturdy foundations of U.S. democracy has been a virtual requirement over the last four years to obtain entrance to cable news Green Rooms, sinecures as mainstream newspaper columnists, and popularity in faculty lounges. Yet it has proven to be a preposterous farce.

In 2020 alone, Trump had two perfectly crafted opportunities to seize authoritarian power — a global health pandemic and sprawling protests and sustained riots throughout American cities — and yet did virtually nothing to exploit those opportunities. Actual would-be despots such as Hungary’s Viktor Orbán quickly seized on the virus to declare martial law, while even prior U.S. presidents, to say nothing of foreign tyrants, have used the pretext of much less civil unrest than what we saw this summer to deploy the military in the streets to pacify their own citizenry.

But early in the pandemic, Trump was criticized, especially by Democrats, for failing to assert the draconian powers he had, such as commandeering the means of industrial production under the Defense Production Act of 1950, invoked by Truman to force industry to produce materials needed for the Korean War. In March, The Washington Post reported that “Governors, Democrats in Congress and some Senate Republicans have been urging Trump for at least a week to invoke the act, and his potential 2020 opponent, Joe Biden, came out in favor of it, too,” yet “Trump [gave] a variety of reasons for not doing so.” Rejecting demands to exploit a public health pandemic to assert extraordinary powers is not exactly what one expects from a striving dictator.

A similar dynamic prevailed during the sustained protests and riots that erupted after the killing of George Floyd. While conservatives such as Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AK), in his controversial New York Times op-ed, urged the mass deployment of the military to quell the protesters, and while Trump threatened to deploy them if governors failed to pacify the riots, Trump failed to order anything more than a few isolated, symbolic gestures such as having troops use tear gas to clear out protesters from Lafayette Park for his now-notorious walk to a church, provoking harsh criticism from the right, including Fox News, for failing to use more aggressive force to restore order.

USA Today, June 2, 2020

Virtually every prediction expressed by those who pushed this doomsday narrative of Trump as a rising dictator — usually with great profit for themselves — never materialized. While Trump radically escalated bombing campaigns he inherited from Bush and Obama, he started no new wars. When his policies were declared by courts to be unconstitutional, he either revised them to comport with judicial requirements (as in the case of his “Muslim ban”) or withdrew them (as in the case of diverting Pentagon funds to build his wall). No journalists were jailed for criticizing or reporting negatively on Trump, let alone killed, as was endlessly predicted and sometimes even implied. Bashing Trump was far more likely to yield best-selling books, social media stardom and new contracts as cable news “analysts” than interment in gulags or state reprisals. There were no Proud Boy insurrections or right-wing militias waging civil war in U.S. cities. Boastful and bizarre tweets aside, Trump’s administration was far more a continuation of the U.S. political tradition than a radical departure from it.

The hysterical Trump-as-despot script was all melodrama, a ploy for profits and ratings, and, most of all, a potent instrument to distract from the neoliberal ideology that gave rise to Trump in the first place by causing so much wreckage. Positing Trump as a grand aberration from U.S. politics and as the prime author of America’s woes — rather than what he was: a perfectly predictable extension of U.S politics and a symptom of preexisting pathologies — enabled those who have so much blood and economic destruction on their hands not only to evade responsibility for what they did, but to rehabilitate themselves as the guardians of freedom and prosperity and, ultimately, catapult themselves back into power. As of January 20, that is exactly where they will reside.

The Trump administration was by no means free of authoritarianism: his Justice Department prosecuted journalists’ sources; his White House often refused basic transparency; War on Terror and immigration detentions continued without due process. But that is largely because, as I wrote in a Washington Post op-ed in late 2016, the U.S. Government itself is authoritarian after decades of bipartisan expansion of executive powers justified by a posture of endless war. With rare exception, the lawless and power-abusing acts over the last four years were ones that inhere in the U.S. Government and long preceded Trump, not ones invented by him. To the extent Trump was an authoritarian, he was one in the way that all U.S. presidents have been since the War on Terror began and, more accurately, since the start of the Cold War and advent of the permanent national security state.

The single most revealing episode exposing this narrative fraud was when journalists and political careerists, including former Obama aides, erupted in outrage on social media upon seeing a photo of immigrant children in cages at the border — only to discover that the photo was not from a Trump concentration camp but an Obama-era detention facility (they were unaccompanied children, not ones separated from their families, but “kids in cages” are “kids in cages” from a moral perspective). And tellingly, the single most actually authoritarian Trump-era event is one that has been largely ignored by the U.S. media: namely, the decision to prosecute Julian Assange under espionage laws (but that, too, is an extension of the unprecedented war on journalism unleashed by the Obama DOJ).

PolitiFact, Jan. 10, 2014

The last gasp for those clinging to the Trump-as-dictator fantasy (which was really hope masquerading as concern, since putting yourself on the front lines, bravely fighting domestic fascism, is more exciting and self-glorifying, not to mention more profitable, than the dreary, mediocre work of railing against an ordinary and largely weak one-term president) was the hysterical warning that Trump was mounting a coup in order to stay in office. Trump’s terrifying “coup” consisted of a series of failed court challenges based on claims of widespread voter fraud — virtually inevitable with new COVID-based voting rules never previously used — and lame attempts to persuade state officials to overturn certified vote totals. There was never a moment when it appeared even remotely plausible that it would succeed, let alone that he could secure the backing of the institutions he would need to do so, particularly senior military leaders.

Whether Trump secretly harbored despotic ambitions is both unknowable and irrelevant. If he did, he never exhibited the slightest ability to carry them out or orchestrate a sustained commitment to executing a democracy-subverting plot. And the most powerful U.S. institutions — the intelligence community and military brass, Silicon Valley, Wall Street, and the corporate media — opposed and subverted him from the start. In sum, U.S. democracy, in whatever form it existed when Trump ascended to the presidency, will endure more or less unchanged once he leaves office on January 20, 2021.

The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence. Our results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.

The U.S. Founders most certainly did not envision or desire absolute economic egalitarianism, but many, probably most, feared — long before lobbyists and candidate dependence on corporate SuperPACs — that economic inequality could become so severe, wealth concentrated in the hands of so few, that it would contaminate the political realm, where those vast wealth disparities would be replicated, rendering political rights and legal equality illusory.

But the premises of pre-Trump debates over how grave a problem this is have been rendered utterly obsolete by the new realities of the COVID era. A combination of sustained lockdowns, massive state-mandated transfers of wealth to corporate elites in the name of legislative “COVID relief,” and a radically increased dependence on online activities has rendered corporate behemoths close to unchallengeable in terms of both economic and political power.

The lockdowns from the pandemic have ushered in a collapse of small businesses across the U.S. that has only further fortified the power of corporate giants. “Billionaires increased their wealth by more than a quarter (27.5%) at the height of the crisis from April to July, just as millions of people around the world lost their jobs or were struggling to get by on government schemes,” reported The Guardian in September. A study from July told part of the story:

The combined wealth of the world’s super-rich reached a new peak during the coronavirus pandemic, according to a study published by the consulting firm PwC and the Swiss bank UBC on Wednesday. The more than 2,000 billionaires around the world managed to amass fortunes totalling around $10.2 trillion (€8.69 trillion) by July, surpassing the previous record of $8.9 trillion reached in 2017.

Meanwhile, though exact numbers are unknown, “roughly one in five small businesses have closed,” AP notes, adding: “restaurants, bars, beauty shops and other retailers that involve face-to-face contact have been hardest hit at a time when Americans are trying to keep distance from one another.”

Washington Post, May 12, 2020

Employees are now almost completely at the mercy of a handful of corporate giants which are thriving, far more trans-national than with any allegiance to the U.S. A Brookings Institution study this week — entitled “Amazon and Walmart have raked in billions in additional profits during the pandemic, and shared almost none of it with their workers” — found that “the COVID-19 pandemic has generated record profits for America’s biggest companies, as well as immense wealth for their founders and largest shareholders—but next to nothing for workers.”

These COVID “winners” are not the Randian victors in free market capitalism. Quite the contrary, they are the recipients of enormous amounts of largesse from the U.S. Government, which they control through armies of lobbyists and donations and which therefore constantly intervenes in the market for their benefit. This is not free market capitalism rewarding innovative titans, but rather crony capitalism that is abusing the power of the state to crush small competitors, lavish corporate giants with ever more wealth and power, and turn millions of Americans into vassals whose best case scenario is working multiple jobs at low hourly wages with no benefits, few rights, and even fewer options.

Those must disgusted by this outcome should not be socialists but capitalists: this is a classic merger of state and corporate power —- also known as a hallmark of fascism in its most formal expression — that abuses state interference in markets to consolidate and centralize authority in a small handful of actors in order to disempower everyone else. Those trends were already quite visible prior to Trump and the onset of the pandemic, but have accelerated beyond anyone’s dreams in the wake of mass lockdowns, shutdowns, prolonged isolation and corporate welfare thinly disguised as legislative “relief.”

What makes this most menacing of all is that the primary beneficiaries of these rapid changes are Silicon Valley giants, at least three of which — Facebook, Google, and Amazon — are now classic monopolies. That the wealth of their primary owners and executives — Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Sundar Pichai — has skyrocketed during the pandemic is well-covered, but far more significant is the unprecedented power these companies exert over the dissemination of information and conduct of political debates, to say nothing of the immense data they possess about our lives by virtue of online surveillance.

Stay-at-home orders, lockdowns and social isolation have meant that we rely on Silicon Valley companies to conduct basic life functions more than ever before. We order online from Amazon rather than shop; we conduct meetings online rather than meet in offices; we use Google constantly to navigate and communicate; we rely on social media more than ever to receive information about the world. And exactly as a weakened population’s dependence on them has increased to unprecedented levels, their wealth and power has reached all new heights, as has their willingness to control and censor information and debate.

That Facebook, Google and Twitter are exerting more and more control over our political expression is hardly contestable. What is most remarkable, and alarming, is that they are not so much grabbing these powers as having them foisted on them, by a public — composed primarily of corporate media outlets and U.S. establishment liberals — who believe that the primary problem of social media is not excessive censorship but insufficient censorship. As Sen. Ed Markey (D-MA) told Mark Zuckerberg when four Silicon Valley CEOs appeared before the Senate in October: “The issue is not that the companies before us today is that they’re taking too many posts down. The issue is that they’re leaving too many dangerous posts up.”

As I told the online program Rising this week when asked what the worst media failings of 2020 are, I continue to view the brute censorship by Facebook of incriminating reporting about Joe Biden in the weeks before the election as one of the most significant, and menacing, political events of the last several years. That this censorship was announced by a Facebook corporate spokesman who had spent his career previously as a Democratic Party apparatchik provided the perfect symbolic expression of this evolving danger.

These tech companies are more powerful than ever, not only because of their newly amassed wealth at a time when the population is suffering, but also because they overwhelmingly supported the Democratic Party candidate about to assume the presidency. Predictably, they are being rewarded with numerous key positions in his transition team and the same will ultimately be true of the new administration.

The Biden/Harris administration clearly intends to do a great deal for Silicon Valley, and Silicon Valley is well-positioned to do a great deal for them in return, starting with their immense power over the flow of information and debate.

The dominant strain of U.S. neoliberalism — the ruling coalition that has now consolidated power again — is authoritarianism. They view those who oppose them and reject their pieties not as adversaries to be engaged but as enemies, domestic terrorists, bigots, extremists and violence-inciters to be fired, censored, and silenced. And they have on their side — beyond the bulk of the corporate media, and the intelligence community, and Wall Street — an unprecedentedly powerful consortium of tech monopolies willing and able to exert greater control over a population that has rarely, if ever, been so divided, drained, deprived and anemic.

All of these authoritarian powers will, ironically, be invoked and justified in the name of stopping authoritarianism — not from those who wield power but from the movement that was just removed from power. Those who spent four years shrieking to great profit about the dangers of lurking “fascism” will — without realizing the irony — now use this merger of state and corporate power to consolidate their own authority, control the contours of permissible debate, and silence those who challenge them even further. Those most vocally screaming about growing authoritarianism in the U.S. over the last four years were very right in their core warning, but very wrong about the real source of that danger.

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22 thoughts on “The Threat of Authoritarianism in the U.S. is Very Real, and Has Nothing To Do With Trump”

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      1. Good to see the Sgt. get together with you. Excellent report. At least he sounds optimistic.
        This just cannot stand…no way in hell.

      2. 11 More GOP Senators declare they will challenge the election results. The group includes Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), James Lankford (R-Okla.), Steve Daines (R-Mont.), John Kennedy (R-La.), Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), and Mike Braun (R-Ind.).

        Sens.-elect Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.), Roger Marshall (R-Kan.), Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.), and Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.) also plan on joining. They’ll be sworn in on Sunday, several days before the joint session.

      3. Wow! That is incredible news. This could be the turning point we are all looking for.
        Heroes still exist!! Thank you, Dr.!

  2. Opinion: On Donald Trump’s Extraordinary Achievements
    Can Canada produce such a bold leader? Likely not

    January 1, 2021 Updated: January 1, 2021


    The achievements of President Donald J. Trump are so boldly true to the real dangers facing the United States, and so unlike the usual tripe out of Washington since the days of Bill Clinton, George Bush Jr., and Barack Obama, that many people confuse his successes with failure.

    Shutting down illegal immigration wasn’t a denial of people’s rights but a valid action to enforce existing laws. Quitting the Paris Agreement on climate change was not an abandonment of American leadership in the world but a bold assertion of it—and of reality over delusion. The president’s rebuke of U.S. allies for failing to shoulder their share of the costs of military defence didn’t divide and damage NATO, it helped to restore its integrity by correcting long-term scofflaws. And far from being xenophobic and racist, closing the border to Chinese air traffic early in the pandemic was a proper and responsible act that helped to save American lives.

    Why this isn’t more generally accepted is baffling—and troubling, for it betrays a decided lack of clear thinking and the ability to discriminate and weigh the worth of ideas. Instead, his critics use emotional and fallacious ad hominem attacks to denounce him and his policies.

    In four short years, the achievements of President Trump so magnificently dwarf those of his predecessors—whose actions or inactions created or sustained many of the problems he addressed—that it is difficult to comprehend why more than the record 74 million Americans didn’t support him in November.

    As others have noted, the dereliction of duty by American media who abandoned objectivity in their quest to dispose of the hated incumbent—who hurt their collective feelings with his disdain—plays a large part in the story. An honest and properly functioning media would have informed the people about Joe Biden’s compromised position with China (due to his and his son’s activities) and looked into his apparent mental frailty. It would have reported fairly on the Democrat lie of Trump’s inaction on the Chinese virus, since his determined efforts to keep businesses open saved jobs, while his executive skills made vaccines possible in record time.

    An honest press would have reported widely on his winning efforts to end decades of hostility between Israel and the Arab countries with pacts of co-operation, which should have earned him a Nobel Peace Prize. All this would have boosted Mr. Trump’s electoral totals, providing a winning edge to counter the corruption abetted by the stupidity (conspiracy?) of those who insisted on changing the rules and using mail-in ballots.

    Yes, Trump can lack tact, refinement, and modesty, but we’re talking about a U.S. president here, a man with all the heavy duties of state, not the principal of a boys’ school. John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson were tough-minded men whose profanity surely peeled the paint off White House walls, yet they were embraced, despite their follies and crudeness, in ways Trump has never been. Why? Because they were insiders who worked their way up over many years in Washington to the nation’s highest post. They were known entities who played the game with colleagues and reporters in a way Trump never did, because he was and is an outsider. As Rhett Butler tells Scarlett O’Hara in the novel “Gone With the Wind,” and I paraphrase here: People don’t like those who are different, Scarlett. They give them a rough ride. You’re very different, my dear, so hang on!

    Trump is hanging on. He has every right to, a duty to, given the vote and vote count abnormalities on or around Nov. 3, witnessed and sworn to by many in affidavits. Electoral integrity is at stake.

    As a Canadian I applaud him for his honesty and action on many fronts: Iran’s nuclear intentions; China’s responsibility for the virus, its unfair trade practices, and other threats to the United States and the free world; returning manufacturing to the United States; and confronting the Democrats’ vacuity and threat to democracy.

    In the 1930s, Winston Churchill was much-abused and belittled for voicing his unpopular convictions, as is Trump. Can Canada produce a leader as stout-hearted and courageous? I doubt it, because most of us are too polite, apologetic, and tainted by wokeness and political correctness to see and fight for the truth.

    By dismissing the frivolous or delusional issues of gender politics, climate change, and the construction of a “green” economy, Trump has saved his country billions of dollars in foolish remedial efforts which would only have bled its industrial lifeblood, harmed millions of lives, and weakened the country further in the face of the rising communist threat. China’s GDP is almost 80 percent of America’s and closing; in Cold War times, the Soviet Union achieved only about 30 percent. China has about 1.4 billion people compared to 330 million in the United States.

    This period, right now, is one of the most dangerous for the world since the collapse of the USSR. This is partly because of perceptions and partly because of reality: a key perception is that the United States is so weakened and distracted by the COVID contagion and a disputed election that it may not respond militarily to Chinese provocation, such as aggression on Taiwan. I believe this to be false, so long as Trump is in office. The reality is, Joe Biden has never demonstrated the backbone or principled conviction to stand up to China’s autocrats, and may not if push comes to shove.

    It seems a great coincidence that the virus from China crippled the American economy and hijacked the election at the very moment most damaging to Mr. Trump’s bid for a second term. The Chinese, it seems, got their men—Trump, knifed in the back; Biden, lifted to the presidency. And people thought the Russians were good at electoral interference!

    Brad Bird is an award-winning reporter and editorial writer based in British Columbia. He has produced five books and reported from various conflict zones, including Western Sahara in 1987 (the first Canadian to do so), Kosovo in 1999, and eastern Ukraine in 2014-15.

  3. This is what we look forward to in your New America…..

    Proposed House Rules Seek to Erase Gendered Terms Such as ‘Father, Mother, Son, Daughter’
    By Mimi Nguyen Ly
    January 1, 2021 Updated: January 1, 2021
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    Leaders in the House of Representatives announced on Friday a rules package for the 117th Congress that includes a proposal to use “gender-inclusive language” and eliminate gendered terms such as “‘father, mother, son, daughter,” and more.

    Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Rules Committee Chairman James McGovern (D-Mass.) announced on Friday that the rules package includes changes that would “honor all gender identities by changing pronouns and familial relationships in the House rules to be gender neutral.”

    A separate announcement from McGovern (pdf) said that the Democratic rules package will make “Changes [to] pronouns and familial relationships in the House rules to be gender neutral or removes references to gender, as appropriate, to ensure we are inclusive of all Members, Delegates, Resident Commissioners and their families—including those who are nonbinary.”

  4. This was expected but still utterly disgusting. McConnell has once again betrayed the people…for me, the hardest to swallow is not repealing 230….and giving TECH the go ahead to continue their censorship. ..Pathetic! McConnell is no doubt compromised….likely have pics of him in little girl clothes. F’ing wimp!

  5. And yet another example of WHERE TAXPAYER MONEY GOES.And if you really believe it goes to develop anal smart toilets, please have your head looked at……


  6. With all the Monopoly Money being created from the ether, I am shocked inflation has not skyrocketed to the point of Weimar ruin. You can still get a decent six pack for $8 (on sale!). Gas hovers at $2.59. Is it all held together with a wing and a prayer? Here in the land of leisure and vacant for 10 months a year mansions, I soldier on wondering what it’s really all about. There are signs of desperation like the Subaru posted on FB with two missing front wheels and left behind jack stands. There’s been a rash of stolen catalytic convertors cut out with a saws-all from high clearance vehicles at the Vail Pass Trailhead and around the valley. No blood in the streets here.

    I have been following very closely the effort to overturn the scam-lection. I’m not sure what is greater, the amount of denial of fraud or the fraud itself. When these bastards look straight into the camera and say there’s nothing to this, there must be a special place reserved in hell for them. John Bolton is the latest to do so.


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      1/ in radio interview w/ @toddeherman when asked what her “Elevator Pitch” to the Supreme Court would be “The very night of the election many people saw something that they had never seen before in the history of our elections. They saw votes being changed on

      2/ the screen in front of them, going from President @realDonaldTrump to @JoeBiden. On top of that, the morning after the election, even that night, the voting stopped. They stopped counting in multiple districts at the same time before the vote got to 270 electors for President

      3/ Trump. That’s never happened before. The only time votes have ever stopped being counted in this country on election night was when the Broward County problem developed over the Hanging Chad’s in one county in FL. So for FIVE states to stop counting on election night is

      4/ absolutely UNPRECEDENTED. And they did it because the vote count for the electoral college was about to hit [+ go over] 270 for President @realDonaldTrump, because of the massive outpouring of votes for him that night. By the next morning, multiple mathematicians had contacted

      5/ me and told me they knew the algorithm that had been run to change the votes. It was that obvious to people with mathematical expertise. It is a mathematical impossibility for 100’s of thousands of votes to show up for VP Biden alone, and to have been injected into the system

      6/ the way that they were. We have eye-witness testimony of countless people who saw votes coming in, in unsecured containers and improper means, and looking different the night of the election. These people have come forward at great personal risk to themselves & their families

      7/ to provide thousands of affidavits of voting abnormalities and actual crimes that they witnessed happen on election night. The very fact that the other side is working so hard to hide all of this. Federal law requires transparency in our electoral process and our elections.

      8/ There is a federal statute that requires all the documents pertaining to election to be maintained for 22 months following an election, for the very reason that it has to be completely auditable. A Federal Judge in October [in ATL] found all kinds of problems w/ the Dominion

      9/ system that GA bought and crammed down for everybody across the state to use. That’s where the most problems have been, is in GA. Witnesses have come forward, there was supposedly a water leak that they shut down voting for. That was an abject lie. We have video of witnesses

      10/ pulling suspect ballots out from under a table after they ran off all the observers. Somebody told me that one of the people that did that has told gov’t officials how it happened and what happened. But has that information been provided to the public? No. There is rampant

      11/ voter fraud of all kinds. Federal violations of 5 years + more across the country by virtue of all the misconduct on election night. The flipping of votes by Dominion is even advertised, on their ability to do that, to run a fraction, to make a Biden vote count 1.26% and

      12/ a Trump vote to only count 0.74%. They’ve done it before. They’ve done it in Venezuela. They done it in other foreign countries. They’ve done it in THIS country. We have evidence even that it was done in 2016 in CA to benefit Hillary over @BernieSanders, and it’s been done in

      13/ other local elections and smaller elections different places. This is the only time it’s been this widespread, and the reason it didn’t work this time, they’ve been able to shave these votes for a long time, but the reason it didn’t work completely this time and they had to

      14/ shut down in so many places was because so many Trump supporters poured out on the day of the election to vote for President @realDonaldTrump in what was a LANDSLIDE victory, a historic victory, is because it BROKE the algorithm. That’s why they had to stop counting that

      15/ night. That’s why they had to bring in ballots and try to back-fill. And it still doesn’t work, because there’s still 100’s of thousands more votes than there were voters to vote them. The math simply doesn’t add up. And if they had nothing to hide, why aren’t they providing

      16/ transparency into the voting systems of the United States of America, the country that is founded upon the Rule of Law and is supposed to be above all this? It is absolutely the most appalling criminal operation in the history of our country.

      “God Bless you, @SidneyPowell1! (Source:

  7. RE: Need to Know (29 December 2020)

    Chris Weinert is exactly right. It’s not China that has taken over the USA.

    This is a Jew d’etat orchestrated by the City of London.

    War Is Always By Deception.



    The senate blocked the $2000 coronavirus check

    People are saying they are digging their political graves. I’ll call that a joke, because Dominion will make sure that never happens. All I am doing is hoping Pence is not a traitor and that Trump will prevail. No one knows which way it will go, if anyone claims to they are only puffing. Most likely NOT for clicks at this point, – seriously – no one knows.

    1. >> All I am doing is hoping Pence is not a traitor … << Hope against hope Will.
      Pence IS & will be a despicable traitor and (regretfully) I predict we will all soon
      find that out. When you see him at the wailing wall bending forward with the jew
      beanie on his head, that's the thousand word picture. The theorized missile strike
      on that AT&T building would have been much better placed on a full Congress in
      session. Much less actual 'damage', and much more actually accomplished 🙂


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