Rebecca Carnes, Newtown Mom Starts National Petition to Make Sure Newtown and its Children Are Truly Safe

Rebecca Carnes

As a long-time Newtown resident and mother , I am starting a “Newtown Demands Action” movement petitioning state and federal authorities to investigate the apparent gross negligence and questionable actions surrounding the Dec. 14, 2012 traumatic event that terrorized Newtown where my children attend public school

In an online Change.org petition addressed to Connecticut’s Chief State Attorney’s Office, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the United States Department of Justice, Rebecca Carnes (that’s me!) – a long-time Newtown resident and Newtown mother of two whose children were in second grade on Dec. 14, 2012 when unimaginable trauma descended on Newtown, Conn., submitted the following request in her published petition:

“The many glaring failures by law enforcement and unanswered questions surrounding the traumatic event that took place on Dec. 14, 2012 and terrorized my hometown of Newtown, Connecticut, when my young children were part of the Newtown Public School District are so great as to warrant an independent investigation by a special prosecutor who will provide a clear, thorough and unbiased evaluation of all levels of law enforcement and emergency medical response as well as aftermath reports at the local, state and federal level and a determination and/or confirmation as to what crimes were committed that day and whether, indeed, the townspeople of Newtown and their children are safe.”

 

In light of some recent information that has come to my attention as a Newtown resident and parent, my concerns are currently and predominantly centered on negligence surrounding the overall response, including lack of communication, mismanagement of resources, gross missteps in evidence handling, overall leadership malfunctions, poor tactical response, inadequate or incomplete documentation, questionable and inadequate first- responder actions, lack of coordination with EMTs and medical personnel, dismissal of EMTs en-route to crime scene, questionable and non-procedural crime scene evidence handling, failure to follow Connecticut laws involving mass shooting protocol, non-procedural DNA collection & testing, disrespectful and nonchalant displays by law enforcement at the crime scene, and a significant delay in release of the official report that outlined gaping holes in assessment and serious, questionable actions at the local, state and federal level.

No bodies (dear or injured) were ever placed on the triage tarps and Dickinson Drive was so crowded no emergency vehicles could have even gained access to the school.

The following are among my most alarming concerns regarding the inadequacy of emergency response from law enforcement and medical staff on scene that day:

1. Failure of any first responder to call for a medical, trauma or medivac helicopter with emergency medical personnel to come to report to the Sandy Hook Elementary School at any time on Dec. 14, 2012, who might have saved some of the wounded children still alive and possibly among the “piles” of children that police reported seeing after arriving on scene.

2. When Newtown Police Dispatcher Bob Nute asks at 09:46:38 hours (about 10 minutes after the 911 call), “Can I send in EMS?” Officer David Kullgren replies: “Stage them at the end of the driveway between the firehouse and the school please” even though children were losing blood as they spoke. Not until 40 minutes after the 911 call – at 10:20:28 hours – does Sgt. Kullgren ask: “Do you have a number of patients?”

3. No known attempt is reported to get any medically trained personnel into the school, nor is there any known attempt to save organs for transplant. According to Connecticut State Law on Pediatric Protocols, protocol for children with gunshot wounds states only a qualified doctor or certified nurse can pronounce someone deceased. However, within about 20 minutes of the first 911 call, law enforcement official(s) on scene quickly declared all 27 persons “deceased” despite not having the Connecticut State authority to do this.

4. Trooper Carlo Guerra stated (CSP File # 00093048) that Sgt. Bill Cario instructed him to take photographs of the deceased children in Room 8 before Sgt. Cario checked for any survivors, even though he is also a trained EMT.

Trooper Carlo Guerra’s official statement: ” I slowly entered the room and it was requested by another trooper that was already in the room that I take photos of the scene before he started to alter the scene in an attempt to find anyone that might still be alive  With my personal cell phone I took six (6) photos of the scene as the other trooper actively continued the search.”

 

Why was Sgt. Cario seemingly more concerned with the crime scene and photographing the dead children than checking their vitals to try and save them? This should be of tremendous shock and concern for parents, especially the parents of Olivia Engel and the parents of Ben Wheeler who were in Room 8 and were still alive and later taken to the Danbury Hospital.

According to investigating Officer Jeffrey Covello’s report (CSP File#00025303):

“On December 15, 2012 TFC Carlo Guerra presented a personnell (sic) cell phone device with six (6) extremely graphic photographs of Sgt William Cario inside the Sandy Hook Elementary School amongst numerous child bodies and two adult bodies pilled (sic) inside and around a classroom sized toilet. TFC Guerra explained that the photos were taken under the direction of Sgt. Cario who wanted him to document scene prior to his disturbing it to locate potential, however unlikely, survivors”.
I have discovered (based on my own research) questions about reports by law enforcement, the official report and the press on the alleged shooter’s identity.

5. Although officials reported to the media and concluded that Adam Lanza killed himself when police first arrived on scene, the official CSP file contains contradictory reports and statements by police, asserting that the shooter both “shot himself in the head, dying instantly” (CSP, document 00151276, page 3, ATF Letter dated July 12, 2013) and “was fatally wounded by police on scene” (CSP, document 00188555, page 6).

Well, which is it? This is an extremely important point to get accurate and consistently reported by law enforcement in an investigation of this magnitude, is it not?

Even more jarring, is the official statement given by Sgt. Bill Cario from the Connecticut State Police (CSP File # 00026724) that police viewed the shooter (and the shooter viewed police) in the hallway after which the shooter entered classroom 10. Newtown Police, according to Sgt. Cario’s statement – then heard a “volley of shots” followed by “quiet for five minutes.” This five-minute gap of no action by the Newtown Police in which the shooter was still alive is also confirmed in the above-referenced ATF statement (CSP File #00188555 Page 6 of PDF) by Investigating Officer Warren Hyatt and Primary Daniel Jewiss who noted, “…male was fatally wounded by police on scene.”

Did Newtown Police stand around in the hallway for five minutes after they heard a “volley of shots” coming from classroom 10 where little children were getting slaughtered by a gunman? As a Newtown parent (and as any parent or citizen of this country should be) – I am utterly repulsed and alarmed by this conflicting report. It is entirely unacceptable. – Rebecca Carnes, Newtown mother.

 

6. The children witnesses interviewed by police did not describe Adam Lanza at all, but rather said the shooter wore a brown coat and looked the age of a dad. A man fitting this description was apprehended in the school parking lot that morning and could not explain why he was there. Not one child witness described Adam Lanza in any unredacted section, as exemplified in Officer Heibeck’s statement document (CSP File #00040345) and Officer Signore’s statement document (CSP File ##00040428).

“Person of Interest” apprehended in the woods behind Sandy Hook Elementary School

7. Police are recorded on Mssgt. Davis’s dash cam video acting nonchalant with some even smiling as they walk up to some supplied groceries and drinks piled on top of the officer’s hood (CSP File # 00055705 Part 2) . Why would such items be brought into an active crime scene and why would police break for lunch at 12:08 p.m. (as indicated on the dash cam) when the school nurse and secretary are reportedly still missing?

I invite others who have concerns and questions about the emergency response and conflicting official report of the tragic Dec. 14, 2012 event in Newtown, Conn., to please sign the Change.org petition.

Official source: Sandy Hook Investigation File – https://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/

Additional source: https://bit.ly/37cooVV

 

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102 thoughts on “Rebecca Carnes, Newtown Mom Starts National Petition to Make Sure Newtown and its Children Are Truly Safe”

  1. So now you’re censoring posts to this thread? I heard you on a podcast where you said you were upset that Amazon banned 6 of your books, but it looks like you act the same way.

    I saw my post go through and it was up this morning, but now it’s gone. I wonder what I said that I shouldn’t have said? I’m not really interested in being associated with a website that censors posts for political disagreement (or who knows why but there was no profanity).

    I left InfoWars after years there because court papers revealed that AJ claimed he was “mentally ill” when he questioned Sandy Hoax. Basically, he through skeptics under the bus.

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      1. February 18, 2020 at 3:33 am

        What I don’t get is how they’re keeping so many people silent. I mean they claim 20-30 kids died, so there must’ve been more than 100 kids who weren’t killed who were attending the school. What are the names of the survivors? That’s a lot of fake people to create, and if they used living people, the parents would know their children weren’t at Sandy Hoax school.
        ….etc.

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  2. Dr. Fetzer….I would be very curious as to your opinion about WHY so many folks (John, for instance in that Raw Deal broadcast of the last Rebecca interview) find Rebecca to be disingenuous in her efforts.

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    1. In that specific instance, my suspicion is that “John” is a shill, who is doing what he can to undermine Rebecca’s credibility. We did a through vetting of her when she first showed up on the scene and concluded that she IS “the real deal”, of which I am convinced 100%. I think John is also the guy who wants to defend the non-existence of nukes, which is completely off-the-wall. But I am bringing him on Friday to debate the issue. As a Newtown mom with kids in a Newtown school at the time of Sandy Hook, who has seen through the smoke and mirrors, Rebecca is viewed as a major threat to the story we have been given for the past (more than) seven years. And look at the latest blog for further confirmation. She’s on the right track.

      1. People are zoning in on Rebecca’s one comment above saving organs for transplant making it sound like she believes there were deaths. Her statement about transplantable organs is wouldn’t that activity be on the list of happenings when such an event happens. It is not saying any belief in it. My main question with respect to Rebecca is where has she been for 7 years? She seems genuine but I can’t completely close the loop. I’m a follower of Tony Mead, Wolfgang, Fetzer, Sophia, etc etc ever since the very day when the governor said his famous line (we have been warned that something like this might happen in our community) on live TV and the bumbling coroner said I hope the people of Newtown dont find this crashing on their heads, everyone must sign in sign and lanyards, the man in handcuffs looking at the camera that morning saying he didnt do it (who the hell is he anyways?), David Wheeler gun carrying what not to do, the smiling and laughing parents, the weird family of Victoria Soto, and on and on and on.

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  3. A comment to all posters here and others: Whatever your views are on Sandy Hook hasn’t Jim posted them here, even if he may personally disagree with all or part of them? Of course we can’t know what he might have censored but if he censored the liar who promised to pay $50K for proof that he was a U.S. Marine Officer, could you blame him? Wouldn’t you? Read his qualifications here: https://www.d.umn.edu/~jfetzer/
    Jim is the real deal folks if anyone still has reservations about him. I have known Jim just under 6 years now since he called me one day and invited me to give a talk at a conference he was sponsoring in Illinois. It turns out we both grew up in opposite ends of Pasadena, California in the 1940’s; he in South Pasadena on the South West side, I on the North East corner in a small town Sierra Madre at the foot of Mt. Wilson. He graduated from a different high school in South Pasadena than I did at Pasadena High School held at Pasadena City College then while a new school was under construction. I was born about a year before Jim in 1939 at Cleveland, Ohio; my parents were from Minnesota. Dad was a mechanical engineer whose first job was with the American Steel and Wire Company at Cleveland; they were tired of the cold weather and left for paradise in a 1931 Chevy Coupe with rumble seat. I was about 1 year old then about 80 years ago (so I am told!)
    Jim was a top student in school and won awards. I was not a top student as I was more interested in hot rods and racing than reading lying history books. I even got in a jam doing so. Jim joined the Marine Corps and was promoted to Captain a great honor. He was a top student at Princeton one of the top schools in the world. I feel that I have known Jim all my life. He is front rank all the way. He is absolutely honest as the day is long. You can disagree with him on issues but he would never lie to anyone or cheat anyone. Jim and I have had disagreements. But we are still friends. I look up to him.
    Recently an assistant professor of Journalism at a school in Connecticut wrote a hit piece on Jim. She apparently took advantage of his kindness and frankness with him and deliberately sought to make him look bad. I believe the orthodoxy is filled with fear about Jim and Wolfgang because they mean TRUTH about Sandy Hook not lies. Because they are very very close to blowing this massive lie to kingdom come, the orthodoxy is using every dirty trick in the book to discredit them. Jim is in a jam right now much worse than the jam I was in decades ago when I was arrested for drag racing and sentenced to loss of license until age 18 and 6 months in jail where no one was harmed or injured at all because no accident happened after I beat my opponent by about 3 freight car lengths. Fortunately a good probation officer name Rosenberg got me out of that jam and back in school to graduate with my class in 1956.
    I would not go so far as to say the judge in my case then, Judge Neely of the Los Angeles Superior Court was corrupt, but as a first offender having caused no damage whatsoever, my sentence was harsh and unfair to say the least. Fortunately for me then, my good probation officer saw this and gave me a new beginning. Of course I was wrong and violated the law. But Jim and Wolfgang are not wrong today and have violated no laws so far as I know. Both are outstanding U.S. Citizens doing their duties to make this country the best it can be. In this case the authorities in Connecticut are wrong along with others up to Obama in the Federal Government. Obama could tell the truth tomorrow and end all these outrageous lies about the Sandy Hook Hoax Shooting, but he is a pathological liar just like Holder.
    Judge Remington is a shameful disgrace who evidently formed prejudiced false opinions of the Sandy Hook Shooting Hoax from news reports instead of physical and forensic evidence and facts. All the well established rules of crime scene investigations were violated at Sandy Hook. Shame on Judge Remington; you have violated you sacred trust; your distinguished Father would not be happy if he were alive to see how unfairly you treated Professor Dr. James H. Fetzer Ph.D. I hope you will reconsider your misguided decision about Jim. He is right; the others are wrong. After my late Mother graduated in English from the great University of Minnesota, she earned a Master of Library Science degree from the University of Wisconsin, Madison. After she raised her family of four children she retired as Children’s Librarian from the Los Angeles County Library. We had life long friends from Madison, Wisconsin. The wrong decision by Judge Remington is wrong and must be reversed at a higher level if truth and justice are to prevail in the massive Sandy Hook School Shooting Hoax Lies. The Truth deserves no less; Professor Dr. James H. Fetzer, Ph.D. and former Captain, U.S.Marine Corps. deserves no less and every citizen of Connecticut, Wisconsin and every other State of the Union deserve no less than the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about the lies told about the Sandy Hook School Shooting December 14, 2012.
    Winfield J. Abbe, Pasadena High School, 1956.,Pasadena City College, A.A., 1958, A.B., Physics UC Berkeley, 1961; M.S., Physics, California State University at Los Angeles 1962 under professor Earl D. Jacobs, Ph.D.; Ph.D., Physics, UC Riverside1966 under Professor Peter E. Kaus, Ph.D.; Institute of Science and Technology Fellow, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor 1966-1967 under professor Marc Ross, Ph.D., Faculty Member with lifetime tenure University of Georgia, Athens, GA., 1966-1978; voluntarily resigned mainly due to lying and cheating by two deans and three department heads to the tenured faculty for over 5 years. These lies effected the promotion of a distinguished Assistant Professor the late Coates Johnson who had a Ph.D. in Physics from UC Berkeley in General Relativity. Dr. Johnson ironically died during the period I gave my talk for Jim at the University of Illinois, Urbana on this very subject!
    Prizes and awards: First prize in contest for best scientific explanation of how the Dunking Bird works, Pasadena Star News, 1959. Awards for Superior or Outstanding achievement in Mathematics, Physics and Chemistry, Pasadena City College, 1959. Highest score on 18 hour written examination at the doctoral level given in six three hour parts for a week. Doctoral Dissertation: “A Possible Reggeized Bootstrap Theory” published in about 6 papers in the Physical Review and other journals. The late Professor Kaus was from Austria but had a Ph.D. from U.C.L.A. under Professor Finkelstein.
    For the M.S. degree, in addition to many graduate courses, I completely designed and constructed, over the summer months, an experimental apparatus to measure the Hall Effect in Semi-Conductors at Liquid Helium Temperatures. The late Professor Earl D. Jacobs, Ph.D. who was my supervisor, was a visiting professor to Pakistan during that Summer and was delighted with my independent work upon his return. He had been a top student under Professor Carl Anderson (Nobel Laureate) at Cal Tech and was head of this department before he completed his Ph.D. there.
    I worked very hard to make the University of Georgia a better place. Two graduate students worked for me; one earned a Ph.D., Gilmer Allen Gary who worked at NASA and Sean Cullen M.S. who went on to earn a Ph.D. under another professor. He had a successful career in industry.

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    1. Here is my comment at the petition:

      Mary Abbe
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      This was a cruel hoax by Obama and Holder to abridge Amendment No. 2. Shame on them and everyone involved in this massive scam on every American. While there are many heroes, Wolfgang Halbig and Professor Jim Fetzer, Ph.D. both deserve the Medal of Freedom. Thank you Rebecca.
      Winfield J. Abbe, Ph.D., Physics
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  4. I listened to her today (Friday 14 Feb 2020) your time. It looks like she is playing a game, which I knew may be possible. She is playing “dumb” pretending to only know the “media version” but using it to provoke interest and an investigation, this too could be said about ae911truth to a level, not that nanothermite is part of the “official storey”. If that is the case, she is doing a good thing. I think in “layman’s terms”, she wants to help, but doesn’t want to get fined $450,000 too or get locked up (again).

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    1. They are picking on Jim because if the Sandy Hook meme is proved false the “shiessen” will hit the fan. Obama could be locked up etc. It would leave the door open disprove all the hoaxes: from Kennedy to the moon to Vietnam to 911 etc. It is “GET JIM” the reality movie. Hopefully Jim will prevail. They treat Jim like he killed the children. They couldn’t do it with JFK or 911 stuff, because the public feel part of the pain,because they were real, although misunderstood, whereas with Jim, the public are treating Jim like he was the perpetrator. Jim is a good man using his life to wake up a selfish and disinterested public who really to blame for allowing this “sheissen” to happen.

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  5. ”The hardest part about discussing Sandy Hook is to open minds just enough to even talk about it. She is doing that. I am not concerned about how much she is able to achieve in relation to a serious investigation, because we know it will never happen. But I am ecstatic that she is getting local folks and Connecticut residents to leave their minds slightly ajar to consider it.”
    Excellent comment by Jim Fetzer.
    Opening up people’s minds to other realities is like trying to open a coconut shell.

    Its much easier to fool people than to convince them they’ve been fooled.

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  6. There is an interview on Facebook with Michael Sennello where Rebecca is discussing a $15 million gift from GE to Newtown. They used the money to build a community center apparently. In the interview she mentions the Sandy Hook tragedy. So at least in Feb 19, she believe something happened. In her blog she is only talking about police incompetence, not that it was staged.

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        1. I am sorry to say, you cannot have watched that interview and walked away with that conclusion. In the first five minutes, she says to Fetzer, “you and Wolfgang represent the truth.” Does that sound like someone who believes the official bs??

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      1. From her Change.org petition:

        “The many glaring failures by law enforcement and unanswered questions surrounding the traumatic event that took place on Dec. 14, 2012”

        Doesn’t sound like someone who thinks it was staged.

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          1. So you do not see a drill presented as real in which they used the supposed deaths of 26 humans to promote gun control as traumatic? Are you serious?

          2. She wrote this on her blog this morning answering someone who posted in her comments:

            “I am trying to make sense of and requesting an investigation into discrepancies and conflicting statements made by officials in a final report offered to the public by the State of Connecticut in what is arguably the worst mass shooting in the history of this country.”

          3. Let’s see how this goes and what comes of it. I have complete faith and confidence in Rebecca Carnes. She already has closer to 200 signatures on her petition. Fascinating!

          4. Her line of questioning so far is asking if the cops did enough to save people and do what’s necessary to make sure organs were save for organ donor purposes.

          5. Real or fake, it WAS “traumatic”. And where do you get this “organ harvesting” thing from? Here is Rebecca’s petition: The many glaring failures by law enforcement and unanswered questions surrounding the traumatic event that took place on Dec. 14, 2012 and terrorized my hometown of Newtown, Connecticut, when my young children were part of the Newtown Public School District are so great as to warrant an independent investigation by a special prosecutor/investigator who will provide a clear, thorough and unbiased evaluation of all levels of law enforcement and emergency medical response and aftermath reports at the local, state and federal level – and a determination and/or confirmation as to what crimes were committed that day and whether the townspeople of Newtown and their children are, indeed, safe.

          6. It’s written right above in this blog.

            “3. No known attempt is reported to get any medically trained personnel into the school, nor is there any known attempt to save organs for transplant. “

    1. I sounds like we could benefit from a professor to unpack this discussion who is an expert in logic and scientifc reasoning.

      Dachsie sees this, perhaps illogically, as an unnecessary dispute among truth seekers.

      The fakeness or staged-ness of the Sandy Hook event issue

      is separate from

      “police incompetency” or “police negligence” issue.

      Rebecca Carnes has every right to explore her seeking of truth about the Sandy Hook event by evaluating “police negligence” and “police incompetency” in relation to the official narrative of the event.

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      1. CORRECTION

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        Rebecca Carnes has every right to explore her seeking of truth about the Sandy Hook event by evaluating “police negligence” and “police incompetency” in relation to the official narrative of the event.

        TO:

        Rebecca Carnes has every right to seek truth about the Sandy Hook event by seeking further information about “police negligence” and “police incompetency” in relation to the official narrative of the event.

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        1. Dachsie…I understand your point….BUT I cannot see, as much as I try, how anyone can watch Rebecca’s interview with Dr. Fetzer and walk away believing she accepts the official story.

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          1. Will, I think you may be missing the point. What do you think a serious investigation of the issues Rebecca has raised would reveal? Just think about it. There are scads of folks who would sign on to an investigation of this kind who would pee in their pants at the suggestion it was not real.

          2. Dr…..I am not missing the point. I have no problem with Rebecca’s petition. I already signed it. My contention is with Dave saying he watched your interview with Rebecca and came away believing she accepted the official story.

          3. Interesting, Will. Thanks for telling me. I find that rather strange. Has he read her blogs as well? Peculiar.

          4. Mike (not Dave) has come out of the closet. (Sorry, Dave!) I was just sent the following:

            New reply on “I suppose if “Lenny Pozner” were here, he would be making comments like those posted by Mike Koplin, who does what he can to promote the official narrative. The sign, “Everyone must check in”, not only corresponds to the FEMA manual but, under oath during a FOIA hearing for Wolfgang Halbig, Patricia Llorda, First Selectman of Newtown (which is equivalent to Mayor) acknowledged that the sign had been placed there by DHS, which makes no sense if it had been a mass shooting–What would DHS have had to do with that?–but can be explained if you know that FEMA is an agency of DHS. So when you know the facts of the matter, you are less likely to be played. Like the Port-a-Potties, it was in place before the exercise began, which makes the story they are selling simply absurd. The trial has not run its course and I am constrained from speaking freely about it, but when the time comes. I will most certainly lay it all out. This was a classic example of the weaponization of the
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            Mike Koplin replied to James Fetzer’s comment

            Mike Koplin
            I read your fictional book Jim Fetzer it is full of lies, another thing do some research about Aspestos (sic) you might learn something as far as your fictional book it is all speculation put together by you and your fellow Conspiracy Nutjobs now climb back into your Rabbit Hole.
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          5. This was my earlier post:
            Seems to me, Rebecca’s idea is to keep the story active without further endangering herself. She has enough problem defending herself from some ridiculous arrest when she asked a few questions of her electric company. It’s obvious they have pegged her as a troublemaker, so she’s taking an approach that is hopefully less obtrusive and more strategic against these monsters.

          6. What she wrote here is the same as her own blog site. There a couple of people have asked her questions. her response to one of the questioners was this:

            “I am trying to make sense of and requesting an investigation into discrepancies and conflicting statements made by officials in a final report offered to the public by the State of Connecticut in what is arguably the worst mass shooting in the history of this country.”

          7. I also signed the petition also. The uneasy feeling I have about this petition effort is that no “serious investigation” will result and I think Rebecca Carnes knows that.

          8. But don’t you agree that it has the effect of engaging residents of Newtown specifically and of Connecticut generally in giving some thought to what happened at Sandy Hook in a manner that will not draw criticism from their friends and relatives? That, in my opinion, is a significant achievement by itself, ever if no “serious investigation” emerges from her effort. We already have a serious investigation, NOBODY DIED AT SANDY HOOK (2015).

          9. Dr,…I absolutely agree and said it in a post I made twice. In my mind, it’s her strategy to keep this mess alive and folks questioning the official bs without making herself an unnecessary target. Why anyone took what I said to mean anything else is beyond my understanding. All I have questioned is Dave’s claiming she still accepts the event as real.

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            James Fetzer says:
            February 11, 2020 at 4:24 pm

            I agree that could be one of the effects and that effect could be “a significant achievement.”
            Whether such an achievement contributes one iota to data that would indicate that the “townspeople of Newtown and their children are, indeed, safe” is an unknown, so to me I guess that depends on what the meaning of ‘significant’ is.

          11. The hardest part about discussing Sandy Hook is to open minds just enough to even talk about it. She is doing that. I am not concerned about how much she is able to achieve in relation to a serious investigation, because we know it will never happen. But I am ecstatic that she is getting local folks and Connecticut residents to leave their minds slightly ajar to consider it.

          12. I’m not Mike Koplin, I have only questioned Rebecca Carnes motivation because it’s not fully known yet. Asking about why cops didn’t do what they should to preserve organs for transplants sounds like someone who at least believes part of the official story.

          13. Rebecca’s blog is great. It has that hometown touch. BUT, I am a bit concerned she uses WIX which last I checked is an Israeli owned company. Since I am so low tech, maybe someone on this blog can suggest another free provider as good or better than WIX.

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          James Fetzer says:
          February 11, 2020 at 5:13 pm

          I am most concerned about Sandy Hook truth and justice than what Rebecca Carnes stated as her purpose for petitioning for an investigation –“ a determination and/or confirmation as to what crimes were committed that day and whether the townspeople of Newtown and their children are, indeed, safe.”

          I hope you are too.

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      2. There have been people with alternate Sandy hook theories. Saying a shooting did happen, but there was a coverup of some sort after that. That could be the theory Rebecca Carnes has. She can can believe part of the story, but still have questions for how it was handled.

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  7. Here is a rare photo of the crisis actor Parents who were taken to the Obama Oval Office on Air Force One.
    Someone has written on the photo the names of the people involved.

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  8. Jim your book was NOBODY DIED AT SANDY HOOK, not the peolple shot were not treated properly

    ‘Nobody Died at Sandy Hook’ author must pay victim’s dad $450,000
    The father of a boy who died sued the authors of the book who claim the 2012 massacre never happened and that it was staged by the government.
    Author: Associated Press
    Published: 1:49 AM EDT October 17, 2019
    Updated: 1:49 AM EDT October 17, 2019
    MADISON, Wis — A jury in Wisconsin has awarded $450,000 to the father of a boy killed in the 2012 Sandy Hook school shooting after he filed a defamation lawsuit against conspiracy theorist writers who claimed the massacre never happened.

    A Dane County jury on Tuesday decided the amount James Fetzer must pay Leonard Pozner, whose 6-year-old son Noah was among the 26 victims at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, on Dec. 14, 2012.

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    1. Notice the exaggeration for effect: “who claimed the massacre never happened”! What would be accurate is “who claim that what really happened was a FEMA exercise–specifically, a mass casualty exercise involving children, for which they even have the manual–which was presented to the public as “mass murder” to promote gun control, where Obama signed 23 executive orders to constrain our access to weapons under the 2nd Amendment on 16 January 2013, just a month and two days after the event. But that would make it OBVIOUS that there’s a serious question here, so they say instead we make (the insulting and defamatory) claim that “nothing happened”, which of course is absurd and ridiculous on its face. The media don’t bother to do any investigating because they are propaganda-disseminating devices, just as cigarettes are nicotine-delivery systems. It’s nothing but “fake news”.

      1. About a month before the Sandy Hook event Obama sent his stooge AG Holder to CT. Holder gave almost 2 millions dollars to the CT State Police for the SH event. Obama was deeply involved.

        After the event in CT, Obama rushed to cry and visit with the crisis actor children [the ”dead” children].

        In the photo, Obama is laughing and carrying on with children that are supposed to be dead. Witnesses heard him calling for certain kids to be in the photo. He wanted to make sure the ”dead” kids were photographed with him.

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          1. I’ve read thousands of pages on the Internet over the past 7 years about Sandy Hook. Ninety-nine plus % of it has been scrubbed. Even my FaceBook page was deleted by Zuckerberg’s minions at FB….because I had ”violated community standards” [by telling the truth about SH].

            Less than ten minutes before the photo above was taken, Obama was crying alligator tears at a Memorial service for SH kids. Now we see him laughing his head off with a group of kids., one of which is supposed to be ”dead”.

          2. Don, I have at least 20 clips that were scrubbed from YouTube on Sandy Hook. 4 hour unedited unreleased documentary that I have recently received death threats for and offered bribes of $600 and $1,000.
            Don’t worry about what they have scrubbed, we have a hard copy. 🙂

      2. “Notice the exaggeration for effect: “who claimed the massacre never happened”!”

        The word “massacre” has been used freely, with seeming universal disregard for accuracy in reporting, in what is considered quality journalism, even as I recall by journalism professor James Tracy.

        This is how we come to accept the new definition of the term with new standards of accuracy.

        Example:

        https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-xpm-2014-02-14-hc-sandy-hook-state-police-awards-20140214-story.html

        “The only other Newtown officer who will get a medal is Thomas Bean, who was assigned to the Statewide Narcotics Task Force at the time of the massacre and responded to the school along with several members of that unit.”

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    2. In a Time of Universal Deceit — Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act
      -this saying is true , but evidentally George Orwell never said it, “that is the truth about this truth”.

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    1. Never bet the farm, I bet the “farm” on the shares and lost “it” due to a greedy billionaire (I lost more than Jim’s fine of $450,000 fine, which a lot for me), and the GFC caused by greedy dishones bankers, and to ad insult to injury, the tax depth said “capital loss” instead of a tax deduction I was really due. I am not a christain anymore, but jesus said something like that you cannot change one hair on your head, so don’t swear by anything, let your yes be yes and your no be no. I would add “do not bet your farm on it, you may loose it, let your yes be yes and your no be no. Give the farm to Jim, to pay these crooks and charlatans,. Bit like jesus said something like: thrown in the fishing line and pay the taxes with the coin you find in the fish, a bit like what face do you see on the coin, whose faceon the coin, caesar’s, render to caesar’s and to god what is gods, I may add caesar was god’s. This lady was arrested for saying the 5G on her smart metre was dangerous, not sandy hook stuff. She is a bit of a hot head. Now her complaint about the bad treatment of the people shot at sandy hook (media meme) may help JIm, but it enforces the

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      1. ….she is enforcing the sandy hook meme, not jim’s “nobody died at sandy hook”. Remeber Jim got tricked by Judy Wood, he voted for clinton and Obama twice each, he is very good on false flags etc, but he is not the infallible pope, who is fallible himself anyway.

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        1. I thought so, but when you have bet the “farm” and lose, so to speak, it sends a shock up your spine when you realize it can happen. Sometimes I have good luck too.The government in Aus has lost its court cause against TPG Vodaphone merger (involves TPM.asx and HTA.asx) going up, still time to get on the gravey train, I think it will go up heaps. I put a 20% deposit on a rental, it has gone up five times, I tried to sell it in GFC and agent refused because it was run-down, I said what about land value? at double the price, now five times, so 5×5=25 times what I invested. The irony is the agent (was the agency owner’s father) he said he lost all his money on the shares, I thought that was foolish, I’d hadn’t bought any shares then, later I lost all of mine on the shares in the GFC, and the agent owner’s kid was my daughter’s school class. Life is strange.

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  9. You say ae911truth are gate keepers because they deny any nukes, and they don’t say CIA, Mossad etc did it. Maybe they are playing it safe? But by following the “planes hit the buidings” instead of “no planes” etc they partially perpetuate the mainstream narrative, and confuse truthers, like “flat earthers” do. Now by this lady arguing about how the “injured” were treated, she is perpetuating the mainstream narrative, against your theory. She is basically calling you a liar on your own website. I think you are being “played”.

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    1. “Now by this lady arguing about how the “injured” were treated, she is perpetuating the mainstream narrative”

      That is exactly the argument I have made so many times in regard to A & E 911 truth as well as Pilots for 911 truth, and other so called truth seeking groups.

      But in this instance, I want to wait a bit and see where Rebecca Carnes’ pursuits go. She is a long time NewTown resident and her children were in a local school on 12-14-12, so she offers a perspective that has been glaringly missing for these seven years since the event. Ms. Carnes has never fully committed to the position that Sandy Hook was a total hoax from start to finish and I think it is good that that noncommittal offers her the greatest number of options as to ways to continue seeking the truth of the event. She has never claimed to be at the same level of knowledge of the event as Wolfgang Halbig and Dr. Fetzer and I think that offers some advantages to her.

      We cannot and should not be too quick to dismiss her efforts no matter what we think about the decisions and way she chooses to pursue this body of information that is so crucial to all of us.

      I do not believe even the most successful outcome of the petition effort at Change.org would actually result in a real investigation of what happened that day and why things played out the way they did. She is basically calling for a vigorous and honest investigation to be conducted by the same entities that have ignored all such requests from others over the past seven years, that is, calling for an honest investigation of themselves and what they did. I suspect that Ms. Carnes knows that but thinks there can be gains from the petition anyway.

      I hope that Ms. Carnes pursues some of the “hypotheses” she set forth in the last article (link ?) on this site from her as they aim to prove that the official narrative is false, and that is what we all want done to the fullest extent possible.

      I would be disappointed if this petition effort is all that Ms. Carnes is going to do.

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        1. Link to the previous blogs should be posted WITH each successive new blog on this important pursuit, so that a “play list” is established and keeps the information easily accessible to all, even newcomers to this site.

          88 does not seem like an impressive number of signatures to me but as stated before, even a petition with the highest number of signatures will not result of an honest investigation by the perpetrators on themselves.

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          1. Great idea! Will be done. On a controversial issue like this, 88 in about 24 hours is impressive! She’s only shooting for 100.

  10. The esoteric and the occult, once you start digging… it’s riveting. Sandy Hook has both. Only a small percentage seem to be willing to look at it with a questioning mind; even less people want to probe the deeper meanings of it. How many people that live near the school can verify it was an operating school? Or are willing to freely verify it? With buses going by on a daily basis… they can’t possibly forget. Friends that have kids in plays with their children? With kids walking by at the start and finish of school. No one is better situated to answer this question. To me that seems more hard hitting for average people than no evidence of internet activity or the conversion to storage use or the filth or the no upkeep or the no ADA update ramp and parking space. Some one said the area looked like a Potemkin Village. Some cut out farce of an actual hamlet presented for your approval. Like the Russians did to convince visitors how awesome communism is.

    I was driving from Boston to Colorado and i happened to pass by Newtown. I wanted to stop by and check out the story. But my gut told me to keep on driving since I was alone and had zero funds for side trips. That was a couple weeks before the Super Bowl. It was puking snow and sleet the whole way west. I got the creeps about even thinking to turn off there.

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    1. Yes Bill, Rebecca is playing a silly game of complaining about protocols while ignoring the obvious weirdness of the entire fake event. I suspect she can’t be that stupid and is actually a disinformation agent to further confuse and obfuscate the history of the Sandy Hook Hoax. This is an old and tired tactic. I would guess that Dr. Fetzer has seen this nonsense before.

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          1. Ok…I give her credit for the distance she has come on her journey. She’s learning about the , double-dealing, duplicitous world we live in….that can take time. It took me time to learn….years and even decades. Its good that she is speaking out….yes, she sounds genuine.

            There needs to be many more like her.

          2. Seems to me, Rebecca’s idea is to keep the story active without further endangering herself. She has enough problem defending herself from some ridiculous arrest when she asked a few questions of her electric company. It’s obvious they have pegged her as a troublemaker, so she’s taking an approach that is hopefully less obtrusive and more strategic against these monsters.

      1. Don says:
        February 9, 2020 at 9:58 pm

        Yes Bill, Rebecca is playing a silly game of complaining about protocols while ignoring the obvious weirdness of the entire fake event. I suspect she can’t be that stupid and is actually a disinformation agent to further confuse and obfuscate the history of the Sandy Hook Hoax. This is an old and tired tactic. I would guess that Dr. Fetzer has seen this nonsense before.
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        Yes, Don, that is certainly one legitimate take on this and probably immediately came to mind to many of us.

        But I chose to believe, and I can at this point with doing harm to truth, that Rebecca Carnes is not that stupid. I think she has already accomplished something very important. This article sets out in print clearly and in detail what did and did not happen on the day of the event and the petition drive puts the ball in the court of actual parents of school children in the Newtown area schools, and does so in a very safe looking innocuous way. The decision to start a petition drive and ask parents to sign this petition should not be something people are very afraid of doing. If there are few or no signatures on the petition, and it is looking that way at this point, that is giving good quality information. Since one would assume that parents realize this is a legitimate request to get a full investigation of all the very real and deadly deficiencies in the way the Newtown apparatus responded to this major crisis event that threatened the lives of many children, the only reason for local parents not to sign the petition is that they are scared to death of the local governmental people and what they could do to their child and their families.

        For now, taking the official narrative at face value seems to a reasonable course of action and this petition option necessarily must be based on the assumption that the official narrative is true.

        To me, this article and all the other speech in all forms of media Ms. Carnes has provided puts the Sandy Hook event back on the front burner again and even if the petition goes nowhere we now have more expository information about the event than ever before, and if Ms. Carnes is indeed the real deal, we can expect more to happen in the way of a real breakthrough for Sandy Hook truth and justice in the coming days.

        We are in an ADVANCED stage of Big Brother crackdown on the people of the USA and even just exposing the fear and distrust we all have about efforts, even what may be perceived as fake efforts, to expose the truth about the Sandy Hook event is a GOOD THING because TRUTH is the only solution to our situation.

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        1. Thanks Dachsie for your comment to me. I feel for this upfront lady Rebecca. She has to live in that village and deal with the other people who live there and their protection of the fraud of Dec. 2012. I’ve talked with people who live in CT. They tell me that CT is a living hell of corruption. I can see that she, like Halbig, have to go through the ”backdoor” to expose the hoax.

          I can see that Jim F. is helping her in this endeavor. He is a real warrior for truth. One interesting fact is that Jim and I are from the same area….So.Cal. Our house in Alhambra on N. Almansor St. was about was about 6 blocks from him. Interesting how people’s paths can cross. Besides that, we’re about the same age.

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  12. One correction from the article. In Cario’s statement, 00026724.pdf, he says the he checked the victims and treated an adult female. They took the boy and the adult victim out of the school. That was before he had the officer take photos.

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  13. Are we sure we can trust Rebecca Carnes? Like Sandy Hook the other public elementary school in Newtwon, Hawley, has no internet activity after 2008.

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          1. My suspicion would be that, to offset the impact of the discovery of no internet service at Sandy Hook between 2008 and 2012, they deleted the records for other local schools, so arguments like yours could be advanced. But where we have such massive proof that the school had been abandoned by 2008 that no one familiar with the evidence is going to be taken in. A good try, but no cigar!

          2. Or it could mean the school URL’s changed. this is what you get for Middle gate with a different URL.

            Big difference than the other one.

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          3. So now you’re telling us there really was internet with Sandy Hook Elementary and that the school really had not been abandoned since 2008? At least we are beginning to get why you are here at all. Thanks for that! I have had my doubts.

    1. Reply to TruthTeller

      Rebecca Carnes launched this petition effort for the stated reason to “Make Make Sure Newtown and its Children Are Truly Safe.” In line with that ostensible reason, she must ask questions that related to the way the immediate and subsequent police actions and response were handled.

      I listened to the interview of Rebecca Carnes by Dr. Fetzer that was originally broadcast on the Raw Deal show on Revolution Radio. [Links to the audio interviews of Ms. Carnes are not provided in this article.]

      I think that Ms. Carnes originally was asking good questions about Sandy Hook to make sure Newtown and its children are truly safe, that is, just to gain information that would make future bad occurrences not happen again to the Newtown school children. However, from listening to the interview by Dr. Fetzer, Ms Carnes related that she experienced some malicious and inappropriate actions from local law enforcement for apparently just speaking out and asking questions on several local issues, local issues that did not appear to be at all related to her publically asking questions aboutthe Sandy Hook “school shooting” event.

      So at this point, just like Wolfgang Halbig’s original questions about the same event in order to provide information to school safety experts on how to make sure this kind of event does not happen at other schools in the future, I feel sure that Ms. Carnes at this point has other UNSTATED reasons for her course of actions regarding the Sandy Hook event.

      I personally would like Ms. Carnes to put out a call for certain data from local people and sources that would support each and every aspect of the Sandy Hook event about which she has mysteriously incomplete or missing information, e.g. the year books for Adam Lanza’s high school that are missing from the shelves of the Newtown public library. Obtaining several missing pieces of data would greatly show that the Sandy Hook event was a false event, totally staged to achieve multiple goals, not the least of which is the take-down of the Second Amendment.

      That is Ms. Carnes real and true role now just as Wolfgang Halbig’s role has played out to show him to be one othe greatest true patriots of the USA.

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