FBI document (absurdly) warns conspiracy theories are “a new domestic terrorism threat”

Jane Winter*

[Editor’s note: Of all the absurdities associated with the FBI, now one demented agent wants to save us from the necessity to think because the agency will do it for us! Notice the dominant “conspiracy theory” of the past several years is the left-wing “RussiaGate” allegation that Donald Trump conspired with Russia to secure his election over Hillary Clinton. Rachel Maddow has gone down “big time” with the Mueller Report and his pathetic testimony to Congress, which was a disaster for Democrats.

For those who retain the ability to reason, see “How to Spot a ‘False Flag’: A Sampler of Representative Cases”, including 9/11, JFK, Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing, Orlando, Charlottesville, Parkland and more. They were all fake, where you need to know how to sort out reality from illusion. Here’s a good place to start honing your intellect:

And consider. Conspiracies are the most prosecuted crimes in America (conspiracy to commit fraud, conspiracy to commit robbery and the like. And the FBI is the nation’s preeminent agency dedicated to investigating crime. So how can an FBI agent suggest that “conspiracy theories” are bad, when they are investigating them all the time?]

The FBI for the first time has identified fringe conspiracy theories as a domestic terrorist threat, according to a previously unpublicized document obtained by Yahoo News. (Read the document below.)

The FBI intelligence bulletin from the bureau’s Phoenix field office, dated May 30, 2019, describes “conspiracy theory-driven domestic extremists,” as a growing threat, and notes that it is the first such report to do so. It lists a number of arrests, including some that haven’t been publicized, related to violent incidents motivated by fringe beliefs.

The document specifically mentions QAnon, a shadowy network that believes in a deep state conspiracy against President Trump, and Pizzagate, the theory that a pedophile ring including Clinton associates was being run out of the basement of a Washington, D.C., pizza restaurant (which didn’t actually have a basement).

“The FBI assesses these conspiracy theories very likely will emerge, spread, and evolve in the modern information marketplace, occasionally driving both groups and individual extremists to carry out criminal or violent acts,” the document states. It also goes on to say the FBI believes conspiracy theory-driven extremists are likely to increase during the 2020 presidential election cycle.

FBI designates Pizzagate and QAnon conspiracy-based theories as domestic threats. (Photo illustration: Yahoo News; photos: Michael E. Miller/The Washington Post via Getty Images, Matt Rourke/AP, AP)
FBI designates Pizzagate and QAnon conspiracy-based theories as domestic threats. (Photo illustration: Yahoo News; photos: Michael E. Miller/The Washington Post via Getty Images, Matt Rourke/AP, AP)

The FBI said another factor driving the intensity of this threat is “the uncovering of real conspiracies or cover-ups involving illegal, harmful, or unconstitutional activities by government officials or leading political figures.” The FBI does not specify which political leaders or which cover-ups it was referring to.

President Trump is mentioned by name briefly in the latest FBI document, which notes that the origins of QAnon is the conspiratorial belief that “Q,” allegedly a government official, “posts classified information online to reveal a covert effort, led by President Trump, to dismantle a conspiracy involving ‘deep state’ actors and global elites allegedly engaged in an international child sex trafficking ring.”

This recent intelligence bulletin comes as the FBI is facing pressure to explain who it considers an extremist, and how the government prosecutes domestic terrorists. In recent weeks the FBI director has addressed domestic terrorism multiple times but did not publicly mention this new conspiracy theorist threat.

The FBI is already under fire for its approach to domestic extremism. In a contentious hearing last week before the Senate Judiciary Committee, FBI Director Christopher Wray faced criticism from Democrats who said the bureau was not focusing enough on white supremacist violence. “The term ‘white supremacist,’ ‘white nationalist’ is not included in your statement to the committee when you talk about threats to America,” Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., said. “There is a reference to racism, which I think probably was meant to include that, but nothing more specific.”

Wray told lawmakers the FBI had done away with separate categories for black identity extremists and white supremacists, and said the bureau was instead now focusing on “racially motivated” violence. But he added, “I will say that a majority of the domestic terrorism cases that we’ve investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacist violence.”

The FBI had faced mounting criticism for the term “black identity extremists,” after its use was revealed by Foreign Policy magazine in 2017. Critics pointed out that the term was an FBI invention based solely on race, since no group or even any specific individuals actually identify as black identity extremists.

In May, Michael C. McGarrity, the FBI’s assistant director of the counterterrorism division, told Congress the bureau now “classifies domestic terrorism threats into four main categories: racially motivated violent extremism, anti-government/anti-authority extremism, animal rights/environmental extremism, and abortion extremism,” a term the bureau uses to classify both pro-choice and anti-abortion extremists.

The new focus on conspiracy theorists appears to fall under the broader category of anti-government extremism. “This is the first FBI product examining the threat from conspiracy theory-driven domestic extremists and provides a baseline for future intelligence products,” the document states.

FBI Director Christopher Wray testifies before a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing. (Photo: Liu Jie/Xinhua via Getty)
FBI Director Christopher Wray testifies before a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing. (Photo: Liu Jie/Xinhua via Getty)

The new category is different in that it focuses not on racial motivations, but on violence based specifically on beliefs that, in the words of the FBI document, “attempt to explain events or circumstances as the result of a group of actors working in secret to benefit themselves at the expense of others” and are “usually at odds with official or prevailing explanations of events.”

The FBI acknowledges conspiracy theory-driven violence is not new, but says it’s gotten worse with advances in technology combined with an increasingly partisan political landscape in the lead-up to the 2020 presidential election. “The advent of the Internet and social media has enabled promoters of conspiracy theories to produce and share greater volumes of material via online platforms that larger audiences of consumers can quickly and easily access,” the document says.

The bulletin says it is intended to provide guidance and “inform discussions within law enforcement as they relate to potentially harmful conspiracy theories and domestic extremism.”

The FBI Phoenix field office referred Yahoo News to the bureau’s national press office, which provided a written statement.

“While our standard practice is to not comment on specific intelligence products, the FBI routinely shares information with our law enforcement partners in order to assist in protecting the communities they serve,” the FBI said.

In its statement, the FBI also said it can “never initiate an investigation based solely on First Amendment protected activity. As with all of our investigations, the FBI can never monitor a website or a social media platform without probable cause.”

The Department of Homeland Security, which has also been involved in monitoring domestic extremism, did not return or acknowledge emails and phone requests for comment.

While not all conspiracy theories are deadly, those identified in the FBI’s 15-page report led to either attempted or successfully carried-out violent attacks. For example, the Pizzagate conspiracy led a 28-year-old man to invade a Washington, D.C., restaurant to rescue the children he believed were being kept there, and fire an assault-style weapon inside.

Edgar Maddison Welch, 28 of Salisbury, N.C., surrenders to police in Washington in 2016. Welch, a man who police said was inspired by false internet rumors dubbed Pizzagate to fire an assault weapon inside a Washington pizzeria, pleaded guilty in 2017 to two charges. (Photo: Sathi Soma via AP)

The FBI document also cites an unnamed California man who was arrested on Dec. 19, 2018, after being found with what appeared to be bomb-making materials in his car. The man allegedly was planning “blow up a satanic temple monument” in the Capitol rotunda in Springfield, Ill., to “make Americans aware of Pizzagate and the New World Order, who were dismantling society,” the document says.

Historian David Garrow, the author of a Pulitzer Prize-winning biography of Martin Luther King Jr. who has worked extensively with FBI archives, raised doubts to Yahoo News about the memo. He says the FBI’s default assumption is that violence is motivated by ideological beliefs rather than mental illness. “The guy who shot up the pizza place in D.C.: Do we think of him as a right-wing activist, or insane?” Garrow asked.

Garrow was similarly critical of the FBI’s use of the term “black identity extremists” and related attempts to ascribe incidents like the 2016 shooting of six police officers in Baton Rouge, La., to black radicalism. He said the shooter, Gavin Long, had a history of mental health problems. “The bureau’s presumption — the mindset — is to see ideological motives where most of the rest of us see individual nuttiness,” he said.

Identifying conspiracy theories as a threat could be a political lightning rod, since President Trump has been accused of promulgating some of them, with his frequent references to a deep state and his praise in 2015 for Alex Jones, who runs the conspiracy site InfoWars. While the FBI intelligence bulletin does not mention Jones or InfoWars by name, it does mention some of the conspiracy theories frequently associated with the far-right radio host, in particular the concept of the New World Order.

Jones claimed the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, in which 26 children were killed, was a hoax, a false flag operation intended as a pretext for the government to seize or outlaw firearms. The families of a number of victims have sued Jones for defamation, saying his conspiracy-mongering contributed to death threats and online abuse they have received.

While Trump has never endorsed Sandy Hook denialism, he was almost up until the 2016 election the most high-profile promoter of the birther conspiracy that claimed former President Barack Obama was not born in the United States. He later dropped his claim, and deflected criticism by pointing the finger at Hillary Clinton. He said her campaign had given birth to the conspiracy, and Trump “finished it.”

There is no evidence that Clinton started the birther conspiracy.

Then-Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump states that he believes President Barack Obama was born in the United States. (Photo: Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call via Getty Images)
Then-Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump states that he believes President Barack Obama was born in the United States. (Photo: Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call via Getty Images)

Joe Uscinski, an associate professor of political science at the University of Miami, whose work on conspiracy theories is cited in the intelligence bulletin, said there’s no data suggesting conspiracy theories are any more widespread now than in the past. “There is absolutely no evidence that people are more conspiratorial now,” says Uscinski, after Yahoo News described the bulletin to him. “They may be, but there is not strong evidence showing this.”

It’s not that people are becoming more conspiratorial, says Uscinski, but conspiracies are simply getting more media attention.

“We are looking back at the past with very rosy hindsight to forget our beliefs, pre-internet, in JFK [assassination] conspiracy theories and Red scares. My gosh, we have conspiracy theories about the king [of England] written into the Declaration of Independence,” he said, referencing claims that the king was planning to establish tyranny over the American colonies.

It’s not that conspiracy theorists are growing in number, Uscinski argues, but that media coverage of those conspiracies has grown. “For most of the last 50 years, 60 to 80 percent of the country believe in some form of JFK conspiracy theory,” he said. “They’re obviously not all extremist.”

Conspiracy theories, including Russia’s role in creating and promoting them, attracted widespread attention during the 2016 presidential election when they crossed over from Internet chat groups to mainstream news coverage. Yahoo News’s “Conspiracyland” podcast recently revealed that Russia’s foreign intelligence service was the origin of a hoax report that tied the murder of Seth Rich, a Democratic National Committee staffer, to Hillary Clinton.

Washington police believe that Rich was killed in a botched robbery, and there is no proof that his murder had any political connections.

Mary Rich, the mother of slain DNC staffer Seth Rich, at a press conference. (Photo: Michael Robinson Chavez/The Washington Post via Getty Images)
Mary Rich, the mother of slain DNC staffer Seth Rich, at a press conference. (Photo: Michael Robinson Chavez/The Washington Post via Getty Images)

Among the violent conspiracy theories cited in the May FBI document is one involving a man who thought Transportation Security Administration agents were part of a New World Order. Another focused on the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP), a government-funded facility in Alaska that has been linked to everything from death beams to mind control. The two men arrested in connection with HAARP were “stockpiling weapons, ammunition and other tactical gear in preparation to attack” the facility, believing it was being used “to control the weather and prevent humans from talking to God.”

Nate Snyder, who served as a Department of Homeland Security counterterrorism official during the Obama administration, said that the FBI appears to be applying the same radicalization analysis it employs against foreign terrorism, like the Islamic State group, which has recruited followers in the United States.

“The domestic violent extremists cited in the bulletin are using the same playbook that groups like ISIS and al-Qaida have used to inspire, recruit and carry out attacks,” said Snyder, after reviewing a copy of the bulletin provided by Yahoo News. “You put out a bulletin and say this is the content they’re looking at — and it’s some guy saying he’s a religious cleric or philosopher — and then you look at the content, videos on YouTube, etc., that they are pushing and show how people in the U.S. might be radicalized by that content.”

Though the FBI document focuses on ideological motivations, FBI Director Wray, in his testimony last week, asserted that the FBI is concerned only with violence, not people’s beliefs. The FBI doesn’t “investigate ideology, no matter how repugnant,” he told lawmakers. “We investigate violence. And any extremist ideology, when it turns to violence, we are all over it. … In the first three quarters of this year, we’ve had more domestic terrorism arrests than the prior year, and it’s about the same number of arrests as we have on the international terrorism side.”

Yet the proliferation of the extremist categories concerns Michael German, a former FBI agent and now a fellow with the Brennan Center for Justice’s Liberty & National Security program. “It’s part of the radicalization theory the FBI has promoted despite empirical studies that show it’s bogus,” he said.

German says this new category is a continuing part of FBI overreach. “They like the radicalization theory because it justifies mass surveillance,” he said. “If we know everyone who will do harm is coming from this particular community, mass surveillance is important. We keep broadening the number of communities we include in extremist categories.”

For Garrow, the historian, the FBI’s expansive definition has its roots in bureau paranoia that dates back decades. “I think it’s their starting point,” he said. “This goes all the way back to the Hoover era without question. They see ideology as a central motivating factor in human life, and they don’t see mental health issues as a major factor.”

Yet trying to label a specific belief system as prone to violence is problematic, he said.

“I don’t think most of us would do a good job in predicting what sort of wacky information could lead someone to violence, or not lead anyone to violence,” Garrow said. “Pizzagate would be a great example of that.”

Trump supporters displaying QAnon posters appeared at one of President Trump's Make America Great Again rallies in 2018. (Photo: Thomas O'Neill/NurPhoto via Getty Images)
Trump supporters displaying QAnon posters appeared at one of President Trump’s Make America Great Again rallies in 2018. (Photo: Thomas O’Neill/NurPhoto via Getty Images)

While Trump may not be supportive of labeling a group like QAnon, which sees him as a hero, as extremist, he’s in favor of broadening the number of organizations that are labeled as violent extremists, at least on the left. On Saturday, President Trump tweeted that Antifa, a far-left movement opposed to what it considers fascism, should be labeled a terrorist organization.

Snyder, the former Homeland Security official, agrees that conspiracy theories may in fact inspire violence and be a threat, but questions what the government is going to do about it.

He notes that at the Department of Homeland Security, “nearly all, if not all, the intelligence analysts focusing on domestic extremist groups” were eliminated under the Trump administration. “There is no one there doing this,” he said.

* Sharon Weinberger contributed reporting to this article.

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  2. Here is a good very 3-minute video…

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/gnrdd35yIRY/

    FBI Proposes Consequences for Independent Thinkers
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    FBI Proposes Consequences for Independent Thinkers

    The FBI has published a document that states anyone that believes anything other than official government narratives …

    http://headlineswithavoice.com/2019/08/08/FBI

    Proposes Consequences for Independent Thinkers

    1. If this had any weight whatsoever, there would not be enough agents to take us all in or enough cells to house us all…it’s just bluster.and scare tactics. When does it start…what are the specifics….is it retroactive.? All BS….I am not buying into it.

      1. Yes, you can say that it looks like BS on the surface and does not pose any real threat under the law to us.

        These moves by the FBI could be done as part of a game they are playing and a set-up they are putting in place based on something the top players behind the scenes on all sides know is going to happen very soon, and this document maybe can serve as a defense against something big that happens that will make the FBI look even worse than they already look. This nonsense document is a positioning device that they obviously see as some value to their own hides. It has nothing to do with law best I can tell. All we see from our outside vantage point are these bones and bait they throw out to elicit a response that could be something they could eventually you against us or leave them in a somewhat better position.

        I have been hearing horrible sounding things about the FBI for over twenty years and wonder why it has not been totally shut down. If anyone sees someone wearing an FBI badge or identifying themselves as being associated with that agency, one should immediately remove oneself from their presence and tell them to contact your lawyer or don’t speak to them at all. Just leave them with a slammed door and a trail of dust. They play every trick in the book to manipulate words you say that they can use against you.

        I think it is kind of quaint that the FBI is supposed to be neutral and not favor any political position or action when the reality is that employees who “don’t go along to get along” find themselves pushed out of employment or sent to the basement to do some filing.

        1. All these acts, proclamations, declarations and resolutioins, especially since 911 seem to be written to create an atmosphere of fear and a need to be proctected. The average man or woman on the street is rarely if ever a victim of any enforcement.
          All these alphabet agencies may have had a legitimate purpose at their outset, but now have all been corrupted to be used against us in a way almost beyond our undertsanding. They mean nothing as far as our welfare is concerned and everything as far as control is concerned.

  3. Putting this here, but I imagine it could be placed any where. I had hope for Trump, but this list brings reality to the forefront…from a comment on ZH…have we been under a spell? Apologies for the caps…just the way it appeared.

    INACTION AGAINST TREASON IS TREASON IN ITSELF- FROM DAY 1

    LOCK HER UP: NO

    WAR CRIMES PROSECUTED: 0

    SWAMP CREATURES EXECUTED: 0

    SWAMP CREATURE PROSECUTIONS: 0

    BENGHAZI CRIMINALS BROUGHT TO JUSTICE: NO

    9/11 DOMESTIC CRIMINALS BROUGHT TO JUSTICE: NO

    GEORGE SOROS BROUGHT TO JUSTICE FOR INTERNATIONAL CRIMES: NO

    JUSTICE SCALIA’S MURDER AND COVER-UP INVESTIGATED BY THE ‘JUSTICE’ DEPT: NO

    U.N. EXPOSED AND CONFRONTED FOR INITIATING ‘MIGRANT CRISIS’ IN WESTERN NATIONS: OF COURSE NOT

    JULIAN ASSANGE – EDWARD SNOWDEN – MICHAEL FLYNN PATRIOTISM RECOGNIZED: NO- STILL UNDER PERSECUTION

    WHITE COLLAR CRIMINALS INVOLVED IN RAIDING OF SOCIAL SECURITY TRUST FUND, FEDERAL PENSION SCAMS, ‘TOO BIG TO FAIL’, ‘STIMULUS’ AND ‘THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT’ SCHEMES BROUGHT TO JUSTICE: NO

    ALLOWED HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO BE SPENT ON A FRAUDLENT BOGUS INVESTIGATION, LASTING OVER TWO YEARS, FROM ‘OPPOSITION’ WITH NO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION TO JUSTIFY SUCH A SPECTACLE: YES

    CALIFORNIA ‘WILDFIRES’ INVESTIGATED AND U.N. AGENDA 21 / 2030 PROGRAMS ALREADY IN PROGRESS EXPOSED: NO

    BREAK-UP OF BIG TECH CENSORSHIP CRIMINAL ORGS: NO

    ALLOWING CONTINUED ENDLESS PRINTING FROM THE FED: YES

    GOVERNMENT SPENDING CUT- REDUCED DEFICIT SPENDING: NO

    TAX BREAKS FOR BILLIONAIRES AND MONOPLY CORPORATIONS: YES

    WAIVES RAINBOW FLAG AND SUPPORTS ANTI-FAMILY AGENDAS: YES

    CUT FEDERAL FUNDING TO PLANNED BUTCHERHOOD HARVESTERS AND DEALERS: NO

    IRS ‘AUDITED’ FOR TARGETING OF TEA PARTY AND GRASS ROOTS ORGANIZATIONS: NO

    FUNDING CUTS TO ‘INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER LEARNING’ AKA INDOCTRINTION CAMPS: NO

    ADDRESSING ISSUES OF AI/TECH THREATS, GEO-ENGINEERING, CHEM-TRAILS, HUMAN HYBRID CHIMERAS, THE MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, STEALTH STERILIZATION PROGRAMS, SLOW KILL EUGENICS DESIGNED TO CULL AS MANY AS POSSIBLE, BIG AG/ BIG PHARMA, ANTI-VACCINATION RIGHTS: NO

    ADDRESSING ISSUES OF INTENTIONAL TAP WATER CONTAMINATION: NO

    INVESTING IN CRITICAL INFRUSTRUCTURE PROJECTS SUCH AS DESALINIZATION PLANTS, AMBITIOUS DOMESTIC RECYCLING PROCESS FACILITES, SUSTAINABLE TREE FARMING ON A MASS SCALE, CONSTRUCTION OF ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SOURCES TO REDUCE NUCLEAR REACTOR WASTE AND RISK: NO

    RENEGGING ON ALL POSITIONS OF SUBSTANCE- PULLING TROOPS OUT OF SYRIA -SHUTTING DOWN THE BORDER IF CARAVANS NOT STOPPED: YES

    TORE UP INF (NUCLEAR ARMS TREATY) WITH RUSSIA IGNITING A NEW ARMS RACE: YES

    SUPPORT OF STATE SPONSER OF TERROR WITH THE HOUSE OF SAUD COMMITTING GENOCIDE IN YEMEN: YES

    HEAVY MEDDLING IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS IN VENEZUELA WITH ‘STRONG POSSIBILITY OF MILITARY OPTION’: YES

    ALLOWS FBI TO LABEL ‘CONSPIRACY THEORISTS’ AS DOMESTIC TERRORIST THREAT BUT NOT ANTIFA: YES

    DISMISSED OPPORTUNITY FOR REAL PROGRESS IN PEACE TALKS WITH N. KOREA: YES

    MORE GUN CONTROL / CONTINUED ATTACK ON 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS: YES

    LAS VEGAS MASSACRE AND COVER-UP RE-INVESTIGATED BY FEDS: NO

    INCREASE IN POLICE STATE SPENDING AND PRESENCE: YES

    LAVOY FINICIUM’S MURDERERS BROUGHT TO JUSTICE: NO

    REVOCATION OF PATRIOT ACT/SPYING ON CITIZENS: NO

    INCREASING WAR EFFORTS AND MIC SPENDING: YES

  4. Very important. Please pass this around as much as possible….and pay particular attention to the show notes…

    https://tinyurl.com/yyf8nlab

    What I have done countless times is make copies of DVDs and leave therm in strategic places like in the current book section of libraries and on the shelves on various markets…If you get blanks on special, they only cost about 17 cents per disk.

  5. From one of my favorite sites:
    WAL MART SHOOTING QUESTION NO ONE IS ASKING:
    1. How many cameras are in a Wal Mart? Why, if this shooting lasted for 20 minutes, is there not at least 10 consecutive hours of shooting video from 30 cameras? There’s more than 30 in a Wal Mart, but let’s guess 30 caught it REAL GOOD. Where is that video?

    2. How in the * did this shooting continue for 20 minutes? How long does it take for people to bail from a Wal Mart? What would be the reaction of people hearing gunshots in a Wal Mart? My guess is that all opportunities to nail people would be totally over in 1:30 yet it continues for TWENTY DAMN MINUTES. Not believable.

    3. Let’s say this shooting really DID continue for 20 minutes – WHY THEN, did this shooter not get a can of cream of mushroom soup in his left ear at 57MPH from weak throw willie? I’d have probably delivered one at about 81 MPH. SHOOTING OVER. Ha, they claim Wal Mart had no guns on site, so the shooting continued and continued and continued . . . . when the store was full of places to hide from the shooter and throw something back at him, like, you know, perhaps a cordless drill? A can of spray paint? How about a small exercise weight?

    No, that did not happen, instead, everyone went back to the toilet paper aisle rather than run out the door and waited THERE, in the paper aisle because there was enough paper towel and nearby cat litter in that section to clean up the BIGGEST blood spill. They knew someone needed a story, and were polite about getting it done.

    20 minutes? People were there for 20 DAMN MINUTES? Yeah right, this story is STUPID folks.
    4. So he killed 20 and injured that many more. By himself. That’s a lot of bullets for a 30 round clip. IS THAT WHY WE GET NO WAL MART VIDEO? BECAUSE THERE’S NO MAGAZINE CHANGES? Look folks, THEY GOT THE REQUIRED EVENTS FOR THIS SHOOTING TO BE REAL, ON VIDEO, IT’S A WAL MART. Let’s see video of a magazine swap! If we don’t have that the day after, well, that can be deep faked now, it DID NOT HAPPEN, that’s a PRIME moment they would have released already.

    5. Why, in ALL the CNN videos (and I watched quite a few) is there only ONE ambulance and ONE stretcher showing up? Hell, they had at least 40 people needing ambulances. Where was the overwhelming paramedic support? I have seen a few tards post that “if they are dead, they don’t move them”. That is true, IF and ONLY IF the body is so dead it has riga. All these were fresh. They should have all been pronounced dead at the hospital. Why ONLY ONE DAMN AMBULANCE? You can see in the videos the BORDER PATROL, FBI, and regular cops were there, plus ONE fire truck and ONE ambulance. That’s a repeat we see at these shootings- totally underwhelming EMT support. And I’ll tell you why: EMT’s are GOOD PEOPLE, and they could not get 165 of them who were corrupt pieces of shit to fromt this lie. But they could find five. (including driver). The FBI and border patrol would be EASY to pull enough dirt bags from, but the local police presence was weak too.

    1. !. no interior blood photos.
      2. no massive EMT presence.
      3. shooter is calmly taken into custody by one cop.
      4. no photos of panicked shoppers.
      5. no photos of 20 bodies being removed from Walmart.
      6. is it another hoax….most likely.
      7. its amateurish from every angle.

      1. Since they have now proved to themselves that most Americans will go along with all this deception, get ready for a big one in which at least a hundred are ‘killed’.
        Get ready for an executive order from Trump….or a massive arrest of those pulling off all this insanity. Who can figure which at this juncture.

        1. I forgot to mention the immediate release of another cornball ”manifesto”. Very similar to the others. I suspect all have been written by the same FEMA lady writer, who’s been identified before.

          Also and most importantly, FEMA has found out that Trump will go along with their nonsense hoaxes. I find this element most distressing. I had hopes that Trump would stop these hoaxes…apparently not.

  6. At a time when we should have a proliferation of posts on this blog, they seem to have lessened. That’s dis-heartening to say the least. This site is blessed to have some very aware and intelligent commentators here. Please continue to post, regardless of this absurd FBI declaration. It’s totally unenforceable and a direct attack against the First Amendment. This is the time we should all speak up more than ever.

    These ridiculous false shootings that seem to be occurring now every two days are a sign they are getting desperate. It’s also a sign they are likely getting ready for their final gun grab. For the best and most recent debunkings of this nonsense, go to 153news.net. Spread the word that 153news.net is the new source of truth. Most are abandoning the MSM and looking for a new sorce of information.

    If Trump falls for this, it will be the end of his presidency come 2020. I would like to hear from Steele on these shootings and how he sees Trump reacting. If Trump is worth his salt, he’ll take a stand against these shadow government exercises and expose them for what they are.

    The actors involved in all of this, spectators and officials alike should be ashamed to have sold their souls and in essence, to have committed treason against We the People. When it’s all over, they must be rounded up and held to account like any other criminal.

  7. Is this the same FBI that used the fake Steele Dossier to attempt to overthrow
    a sitting president? The same FBI who did not charge the man who started the entire
    escapade? Why not? Because they were afraid he would expose them? That FBI?
    We should trust them for what reason? Because they say so? I think not!

    1. Please do not miss that vid. Optimist that I am, I cannot disagree with a word…It is said, that once a member of an alphabet agency, always a member…..I pray that is wrong in Steele’s case.

  8. It is amazing you have an FBI warning about conspiracies right after they just tried a soft coup to overthrow the President with fake made up Russian bs. And the best part is NOBODY got punished for it. We will all pay them a nice fat retirement for their treason. Thank you for your service indeed.

  9. In the real world, Maddow would be tried for treason, but in the world of fake news, she’ll probably get an Emmy..or maybe already has….who watches this crap?…not me.

    This FBI nonsense is just another attempt to quell the alternatve media….Until they come up with some way to repeal the 1st Amendment, they are stuck with what they erroneously term conspiracy theories, when the real conspiracy is every alphabet agency, the CONgress, judiciary and the executive that now exist ONLY to satisfy the insatiable hunger of corporate America.

    1. I never watch TV news. If I did, I would avoid Maddow like the plague. especially when she goes on camera in her “man” outfit. Her entire demeanor is like nails on a blackboard…..especially that smarmy voice.

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