Jim Fetzer, The Sandy Hook “Pozner v. Fetzer” Lawsuit: Defendants’ Application for Appellate Court Review

Jim Fetzer

My experience in Dane County Circuit Court on 17 June 2019 during which the Honorable Frank Remington presided over Defendants’ and Plaintiff’s Motions for Summary Judgment has shaken my confidence in the judicial system of Wisconsin to the core. You will see the grounds on which I am appealing this case, where the most blatant violation of my rights occurred when the Court decided that there was no dispute about the authenticity of the death certificate, when I had the reports of two forensic document examiners to the contrary—and where, because it lacked the certification of the Town Registrar, the death certificate that I had described in the book as a “fabrication” IS a fabrication! It was “a very simple case”, which was wrongly decided.

Discussing the case with Michael Decon & Friends on 29 June 2019

The case at bar involves alleged defamation of Plaintiff by Defendants having described a death certificate Plaintiff provided to Kelley Watt as a “fabrication”, in a book they edited and published, Nobody Died at Sandy Hook: It was a FEMA Drill to Promote Gun Control (2015; 2nd ed. 2016). Although the death certificate (below left) had neither Town nor State certification, the Complaint alleges that it does not differ “in any material respect” from a second certificate attached to the Complaint (below right), which had both Town and State certifications and which Defendants had never before seen, commented upon or published about prior to this suit having been served, where the Court found in favor of Plaintiff’s Motion for Summary Judgment 17 June 2019.

The case was a logical absurdity from the beginning.  The Complaint claims that, because the death certificate that Defendants—in particular, Defendant Fetzer—described as a “fabrication” did not “differ in any material respect” from the death certificate attached to the Complaint, the Defendants had defamed the Plaintiff. But the certificate attached to the Complaint had both Town Registrar and State certifications, which mark the difference between death certificates that are prima facie authentic and death certificates that are not.  What could possibly be more “material”?  Plaintiff was resorting to the fallacy known as “bait and switch” from the beginning, using an artfully composed Complaint to saddle the Defendants with an offense they had not committed.

NOTE: While I have done my best, the formatting is not exactly as in the document submitted.


STATE OF WISCONSIN                                                                   COURT OF APPEALS

LEONARD POZNER                                                                      CASE TYPE: DEFAMATION


No. 2018-CV-17-003122







Defendants, James Fetzer and Mike Palecek, pro se, submit this Application for Interlocutory Appellate Review under Wis. Stat. section 808.03(2). The order appealed from is the unwritten order granting summary judgment  to  the plaintiff  on  17 June  2019  (Exhibit A).


  1. Was the trial judge’s refusal to permit Dr. Fetzer to present contextual facts relating to the Sandy Hook event a deprivation of his constitutional right to present truth as a defense to a claim of defamation?
  2. Did the trial judge commit reversible error where he [apparently] found there was no genuine dispute that the death certificate published in Nobody Died at Sandy Hook was not a “fake” or “forgery,” despite there being five (5) different versions of the death certificate on record in this case, four (4) of which contain a highly irregular amendment?
  3. Did the trial judge impermissibly engage in the fact-finding process when he stated at page 163 of Summary Judgment Transcript (Exhibit B) that Plaintiff had provided a “plausible and acceptable” explanation for the different versions of the death certificate?
  4. Did the narrow window between the time the trial judge issued his Scheduling Order and the time mandated for filing summary judgment deprive the Defendants of their due process right to reasonable discovery?


On 14 December 2012, the entire world was stunned at reports of the shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newton, Connecticut. The official reports recounted the tale of brutal slaughter of society’s most innocent people – including twenty (20) first-grade students aged to six (6) to seven (7), as well as four (4) teachers, the person identified as the killer, and the killer’s mother. The youngest of the dead students was six (6) year old, Noah Pozner. The father of Noah Pozner is purportedly a man named Leonard (“Lenny”) Pozner. He is also the Plaintiff and Counterclaim Defendant in this action.

Media reports from Newtown were laden with oddities and anomalies that many people at the time found puzzling. These anomalies were entirely inconsistent with a spontaneous and surprising shooting emergency. For instance, instead of the medical units being set up at the Sandy Hook school, they used the Firehouse as a command and control center, even though it was about a third of a mile away.

By all appearances, the Firehouse had been prepared for the shooting in advance of the event. For instance, there were portable toilets already in place; there was a prominently positioned neon-lit sign saying, “EVERYONE MUST CHECK IN”; there was pizza and bottled water; many people at the Firehouse were photographed wearing nametags on lanyards; aerial footage showed people walking in one door and out another door then back through the same door, as if following a script. Further investigation revealed that there had been no surge of EMT’s into the building; that there had been no string of ambulances to rush the injured or dead to hospitals where they could be declared dead or alive; that no Med-Evac chopper was called; and that, even though triage tarps were laid out in the school parking lot, no bodies of any injured or deceased were ever placed upon them.

Wayne Carver, M.D. – the Accidental State Medical Examiner

As stated on page 72 and passim of Nobody Died at Sandy Hook1, there were many bizarre media reports and interviews of those associated with the “shooting.” Many of the participants seem to be acting, such as the now infamous Connecticut State Medical Examiner, Wayne Carver, who gave a press conference the day after the “shooting” (widely available on You Tube) that can only be described as “surreal.” As a public official of high standing who was charged with performing autopsies on twenty-six (26) dead bodies, including twenty (20) children, his clowning and outlandish behavior, strange grins, irrelevant comments and uninformed responses to reporters’ questions is impossible to reconcile with an event of such magnitude. On page 19 of Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, James F. Tracy, Ph.D., describes Wayne Carver as “The Accidental Medical Examiner.” Dr. Tracy excerpts certain text from Wayne Carver’s infamous press conference, a sample of which is reproduced below:

Reporter #2:    Doctor, can you tell us about the nature of the wounds? Were they at very close range? Were the children shot at from across the room?

Carver:            Uhm, I only did seven of the autopsies. The victims I had ranged from three to eleven wounds and I only saw two of them with close range shooting. Uh, but that’s uh, y’know, a sample. Uh, I really don’t have detailed information on the rest of the injuries.

Reporter#4:    How many bullets or fragments did you find in the autopsy? Can you tell us that?

Carver:            Oh. I’m lucky I can tell you how many I found. I don’t know. There were lots of them, OK? This type of weapon is not, uh . . . the bullets are designed in such a fashion that the energy – this is very clinical. I shouldn’t be saying this. But the energy is deposited in the tissue so the bullet stays [in the tissue].2

Reporter #6     In what shape were the bodies when the families were brought to check [inaudible]

Carver:            uh, we did not bring the bodies and the family into contact. We took pictures of them, uhm, of their facial features. We have, uh, uh – it’s easier on the families when you do that. Uh, there is, uh, a time and place for the up close and personal in the grieving process, but to accomplish this we thought it would be best to do it this way and uh, you can sort of, uh . . . You can control a situation depending on a photographer, and I have very good photographers.

Wayne Carver then ended the press conference with the following prescient words: “I hope, ah, the people of Newtown don’t have it crash on their head later.”

1 A pdf copy of Nobody Died at Sandy Hook (2nded., 2016) is attached to the Transcript of the Summary Judgment Hearing as Exhibit 10.

2 The Bushmaster .223 rifle Connecticut police claimed was used to kill the children is designed for long range field use with bullet velocity at 3,000 feet per second, causing such bullet to pierce through the soft tissue of a human body, not come to rest in the soft tissue.

Robbie Parker – The Accidentally Grieving Sandy Hook Father

 As described on page 72 of Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, perhaps the most infamous press conference was that of Robbie Parker, alleged father of first grade victim Emilie Parker, speaking on a CNN report the same day as Wayne Carver’s press conference. Although he had just lost his young daughter to a mass shooting, he chuckled as he walked up to the camera. Then he got into character by hyperventilating, finally feigning grief as he talked about his daughter and the fund set up in her memory – all while reading from a cue card.

Discussion threads sprang up on the Internet and Sandy Hook became a subject of extensive and detailed debate as more and more anomalous details emerged. Internet exchanges on blogs and YouTube became frequent and intense, where the situation cried out for a serious investigation. Based on these inconsistencies, irregularities, and just plain sloppiness of the actors involved, when the FEMA manual for a 2-day mass casualty exercise involving children appeared on James Tracy’s website—which Defendants published as Appendix A to the book— the pieces fit together: the Sandy Hook massacre was in reality a FEMA drill with a rehearsal on the 13th, going LIVE on the 14th. As a former Marine Corps officer and Distinguished McKnight University Professor of the University of Minnesota, and having conducted extensive research exposing the cover-up in the assassination of JFK, I felt I had both the right and the duty to to expose frauds being perpetrated upon the American public by means of collaborative research.

The Bizarre Earlier Photo of the Most Iconic of the Sandy Hook Photographs 

As described in Chapter 4 of Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, the earliest “smoking gun” that so irrefutably exposes that Sandy Hook was a staged event is the “fake” iconic photograph by Shannon Hicks of The Newtown Bee. This photograph purports to be of children being led out of the school in a “conga” line, single file, in what appears to be the children’s escape from the emergency situation inside the school (See Photo – Attachment A hereto).

This photograph was published worldwide and became the image of the Sandy Hook shooting. However, another photograph soon surfaced, which Shannon Hicks admitted having taken but minutes earlier, with the children arranged in a different order in the sequence (See Earlier Photo – Attachment B hereto).

Moreover, there are parents present, casually looking on. To state the obvious, the second photograph demonstrates that the alleged “emergency” was in fact an arranged event with parents on the scene, where the woman leading the children rearranged the kids to get “a better shot.” If Sandy Hook had it been a bona fide emergency, there would not be two (2) different photographs with two (2) different arrangements of children in a single line—nor would parents have been present.

Kelley Watt, from Tulsa, Oklahoma, was Provided Noah Pozner’s Death Certificate

As explained at Chapter 11 of Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, several months after the “shooting”, I was contacted by a woman named Kelley Watt of Tulsa, Oklahoma. She has her own residential and commercial cleaning service, which sometimes includes having to clean up blood, which is classified under federal law as bio-hazardous material. The cleanup of blood from a mass-shooting event requires a paper trail for proper disposal of the blood. When Kelley Watt viewed scenes of the Sandy Hook school on television, she was troubled at the complete lack of blood. This was especially true, since the high-velocity rifle allegedly used in the shooting causes massive injuries akin to an explosive. When Kelley Watt sought to contact the responsible authorities to determine which contractor was awarded the cleanup contract, she received nothing but evasive answers, and thus discovered no such contract existed. See Affidavit of Kelley Watt,¶3:

It was I who called several state agencies without success asking the simple question, “Who cleaned up the blood?” Nobody knew. I was eventually directed to make contact with Lt. Paul Vance of the Connecticut State Police, who responded to my query with, “What blood?” This heightened my suspicions that nobody knew because there had been no blood.

There appears to have been no Sandy Hook cleanup contract, because there was no blood to clean up at Sandy Hook. As a natural corollary, if there was no blood to clean up at Sandy Hook, then there were no gaping wounds from a .223 Bushmaster rifle or from any other weapon, for that matter. If there were no gaping wounds from any weapon at Sandy Hook, then indeed the title of the book, “Nobody Died at Sandy Hook”, is entirely appropriate. If nobody died at Sandy Hook then, by logical implication, the death certificate provided by Lenny Pozner to Kelley Watt was a presumptive fake and forgery. The fact that the death certificate contained several anomalies on its face reinforced my conviction that it had to be a “fabrication.” Kelley Watt would later appear on my Internet show at that time, “The Real Deal”, where we discussed these and other anomalies raising suspicions about what had happened at Sandy Hook.

As per the Affidavit of Kelley Watt attached to my Motion for Summary Judgment, Lenny Pozner, Plaintiff, tracked her down using the website, Google Plus, and eventually engaged her in conversation, which she estimated at over one hundred (100) hours. [Kelley Watt Affidavit, ¶ 11]. During these conversations, Kelley Watt continually referred to Lenny Pozner as a “liar,” yet he continued to engage with her. Those conversations continued for about six months. [Kelley Watt Affidavit, ¶ 9]. At one point, she advised him that to prove Noah Pozner actually existed, she wanted: 1) a death certificate; 2) a copy of his report card, and 3) a picture of Lenny Pozner’s wife, Veronique, in the hospital with Noah.  [Kelley Watt Affidavit, ¶18].  The following day, however, he sent an e-mail directing her to a web site where she found (what purported to be) a copy of Noah’s death certificate; a copy of Noah’s kindergarten report card, and a picture of his wife, Veronique, with a baby, though she was not in the hospital with Noah.

Kelley was immediately suspicious, because the address on the report card spelled “Dickinson Drive” with an “e” as “Dickenson Drive”, which caused her pause. Kelley Watt copied the death certificate from the blog and shared it with me. Together, we subsequently published and discussed it in Chapter 11 of Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, where she states at ¶22, “A copy of the death certificate Plaintiff [Lenny Pozner] sent to me appears on page 181 of Ch. 11 . . .”3

3 Lenny Pozner sent an e-mail to Kelley Watt disclosing that a copy of Noah’s death certificate had been posted on the SandyHookFacts.com website, with his permission.

During their final conversation, Kelley Watt told Lenny Pozner that she and other Sandy Hook skeptics were going to donate to his fund, which puzzled him because she didn’t believe it had been real. When she told him it was because she wanted to have standing to participate in a class action suit against him, he said, “Fuck you, bitch!” Kelley thought it was strange that after so many lengthy conversations, he would take offense at this and have no further communication. [Kelley Watt Affidavit,¶15].

On page 3 of the document entitled “Plaintiff’s Response to Fetzer’s Proposed Findings of  Fact,” Lenny Pozner admitted that the copy of the  death certificate in Nobody Died at Sandy Hook is the same as a copy of the death certificate he released: “Plaintiff does not dispute that Exhibit B [the death certificate in Nobody Died at Sandy Hook] is a copy of the death certificate Plaintiff released.” Although Lenny Pozner would later maintain that Kelley Watt had failed to properly authenticate the chain of custody of the death certificate from Lenny Pozner’s e-mail to publication by defendants in the book, such objection is an evidentiary objection, not factual. The law does not require the nonmoving party to produce evidence in a form that would be admissible at trial in order to avoid summary judgment. Celotex Corporation v. Catrett, 477 U.S.317, 324, 106 S. Ct. 2548, 2553 (1986).

“Noah Pozner” is a Fiction Created from Photos of his Older Step-Brother Michael Vabner

At Appendix D to Nobody Died at Sandy Hook (2nded., 2016), Kelly Watt followed up her interaction with Lenny Pozner with a reference to a letter, which someone had written to Dr. Tracy years earlier, pointing out that Lenny Pozner’s purported stepson Michael Vabner, bore an uncanny resemblance to Noah Pozner. As set forth in my Motion for Summary Judgment and Brief, I engaged colleague of mine in JFK research, Larry Rivera, who has studied the principles of photogrammetry—the application of mathematics to the study of photographs. Without explaining the context or identifying the parties, I sent Larry Rivera photos of “Noah” and of Michael – which Plaintiff himself confirmed were of them respectively, during his video deposition—and Larry reported back to me (with a supporting gif) that these were indeed two photos of one and the same person. See Affidavit of James Fetzer ¶¶’s 55–59, regarding the answer that Lenny Pozner gave at his deposition to explain this resemblance 55. I presented proof that “Noah Pozner” is a fiction made up out of photographs of his purported older step-brother, Michael Vabner, which has been demonstrated by Larry Rivera (Exhibits 23 and 24).

  1. Statement of Prior Proceedings


  1. The Complaint


The Complaint was served on 28 November 2019. It identified James Fetzer and Mike Palecek, co-editors of Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, and the book’s publisher, Wrongs Without Wremedies, as defendants. As stated in the Introduction to the Complaint, “this case focuses narrowly on one falsehood: that [Lenny Pozner] circulated a forgery of N.P.’s death certificate.” The Complaint thus sought to focus exclusively on the presumption of authenticity, which attaches to a certified document. Indeed, Lenny Pozner’s counsel cleverly drafted the Complaint to focus solely on authenticity of the death certificate. By so narrowing the claim, clearly Lenny Pozner sought to excise the so-called Sandy Hook from any context of the defamation claim. In other words, Lenny Pozner narrowly crafted his claim by limiting it to the authenticity of Noah Pozner’s death certificate, in order to exclude the precise kind of evidence needed to establish the context of our statement. As the trial judge, Frank Remington, would later acknowledge:

THE COURT:             . . . we’re focusing on the plaintiff’s claim . . . they’re using a very limited and single cause of action to frustrate your ability to relitigate (sic) whether or not Sandy Hook happened. [Transcript of the Summary Judgment Hearing page 85, lines1-5].

Attached to the Complaint as Exhibit “A,” was another copy of the death certificate. [See Transcript of the Summary Judgment Hearing, Exhibit 5]. Lenny Pozner represented the death certificate attached as Exhibit “A” to the Complaint was, in essence, the same death certificate published in Nobody Died at Sandy Hook. See Complaint, ¶19 (“The official death certificate attached hereto does not differ in any material respect from the one released publicly by Plaintiff.”)] Lenny Pozner’s claim that Exhibit “A” to the Complaint does not differ in any “material” respect from the death certificate in Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, however, is a genuinely disputed fact because it contains material differences.

To state the obvious, simple examination reveals that Exhibit “A” to the Complaint contains a certification from the Town Clerk, Debbie Aurelia (on the left side), and a certification and one from the State of Connecticut. It also has a handwritten entry for the State file number. The death certificate that Lenny Pozner provided to Kelley Watt, however, has no file number or any form of certification. Conceivably, the death certificate received by Kelley Watt could have been altered to remove the certification of Debbie Aurelia. However, Lenny Pozner admitted in his Response to Defendant Fetzer’s Proposed Findings of Fact #6, that the version of the death certificate in Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, with no certification from Debbie Aurelia, had been “released” to the public.4

4 Defendants submit that a death certificate that is of such public interest and notoriety that its issuance to the public is characterized as a “release” is suspicious in and of itself.

Another striking difference between the copy of the death certificate in Exhibit “A” to the Complaint and the copy in Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, turns out to be so clear and obvious, that for Lenny Pozner’s counsel to claim there are “no material differences” between the two documents is both deceptive and unethical. The death certificate attached as Exhibit “A” to the Complaint contains a typed in notation at the top stating “boxes 12 and 22 corrected as per Father 5-14-13 Leonard Pozner.” The information required of Box 12 is that of the decedent’s “residence.” Since the term “residence” implies the place where one resided or lived, and since Noah Pozner purportedly died on 14 December 2012, it is impossible for his “residence” to have changed on 5-14-13.

Notwithstanding that Lenny Pozner “corrected” the death certificate on 14 May 2013, the death certificate in Nobody Died at Sandy Hook was shared with Kelley Watt in 2014. This “undisputed” fact creates a genuine dispute about the authenticity of the two (2) versions of the death certificate identified thus far. Why, after all, would Lenny Pozner change the address of his deceased son months after he died? As per his answer to my question to him during his video deposition on 28 May 2019, it was because Noah Pozner lived with him more of the time at the corrected address, and he wanted the death certificate to be accurate.

Judge Remington Stayed Counterclaim for Abuse of Process, and Issued Protective Order Against Discovery of Facts Related to Sandy Hook

I submitted a Counterclaim for Abuse of Process, because the underlying reason for this suit was not as remedy for a defamation claim, but rather to silence and suppress the voices of Sandy Hook skeptics. I also submitted document production requests that would prove the  events at Sandy Hook were staged and thereby prove that Lenny Pozner truly did issue or possess a “fake” death certificate of Noah Pozner. However, Lenny Pozner sought a protective order to prevent me from requesting any discovery related to Sandy Hook or other background matters that would establish the “context” of my allegedly defamatory statements. The requested protective order prohibited me from inquiring into the “true identity” of Lenny Pozner and Noah Pozner, whom I believe, in reality, to be persons named “Reuben Vabner” and “Michael Vabner,” respectively, who are likewise father and son.

When Lenny Pozner requested a DNA test for Noah Pozner, I moved to have the testing expanded to include Michael Vabner and Reuben Vabner as well as Veronique de la Rosa, who is the mother of Michael Vabner and the putative mother of Noah Pozner; but the trial judge denied the request. Indeed, each time I sought to provide proof that Sandy Hook had been a FEMA exercise where no one had died, the line of inquiry was cut off—even though such evidence provided  the very contextual evidence to support the truth of my statement that Lenny Pozner possessed or issued a fake death certificate of Noah Pozner. See Transcript of telephone conference hearing regarding Lenny Pozner’s Motion for Protective Order on 11 March 2019

THE COURT:             Okay. Do you think—look it, do you think there would come a time in this case, Mr. Zimmerman, in which you would actually introduce Noah Pozner’s birth certificate as evidence?

ZIMMERMAN: I can’t fathom why that would happen, Your Honor. Our goal is to focus on the allegations that are before us and not go down paths where we’re trying to show that kids were murdered in a school. And, I appreciate the question. We are trying not to fly in a medical examiner to show pictures of what happened in a scene because that’s—that’s not the case that’s before the Court. [P. 26, L. 6-17].

In light of counsel for Lenny Pozner stating he could not “fathom” introducing Noah Pozner’s birth certificate into evidence, it was quite startling that in his Summary Judgment Brief at page 4, he did, in fact, introduce Noah Pozner’s birth certificate into evidence. On the other hand, when I sought to obtain discovery regarding Veronique De LaRosa, the mother of the boy named “Michael Vabner,” I was again cut off. The trial judge’s discussion of the issue with counsel for co-defendant Wrongs Without Wremedies is illustrative of this point:

PETALE: I think that the—the fact that the Court is interpreting the subject matter of the Complaint so narrowly is not taking into consideration the fact that at the very beginning of the Complaint it is alleged as fact that Noah Pozner was killed at the Sandy Hook Elementary School by a mass murderer.

THE COURT:  I am not concerned with necessarily the circumstances and the larger issue with regard to the things that these – that the Defendants might want to get into, but I am construing the cause of action as set forth in the three counts in the Complaint in that fashion

Mr. Zimmerman, did you intend in the Complaint to make a question of fact the circumstances surrounding Noah Pozner’s death relevant to the defamation claim? [Emphasis added].

Mr. Zimmerman:        No, Your Honor, we did not. Your read of the Complaint is exactly correct. The only question here is whether the death certificate is a forgery, fabrication, counterfeit. It’s not the circumstances of Mr. Pozner’s son’s death.


This Application for Interlocutory Review is made pursuant to Wis. Stat. ¶808.03(2), which states:

A judgment or order not appealable as a matter of right under subsection (1) may be appealed to the court of appeals in advance of a final judgment or order upon leave granted by the court if it determines that an appeal will:

  • Materially advance the termination of the litigation or clarify further proceedings in the litigation;
  • Protect the petitioner from substantial or irreparable injury; or
  • Clarify an issue of general importance in the administration of justice

The Summary Judgment Decision qualifies as a decision subject to review under Wis. Stat. 808(2)(3), because it terminates the Defendants’ opportunity to defend themselves against Lenny Pozner’s defamation claim, yet still subjects them to a jury trial on damages.

  2. Interlocutory Review Will Clarify Further Proceedings

As set forth herein, the acceptance by the Appeals Court of this Application for Interlocutory Review would serve to materially clarify further proceedings in this litigation. One such reason is that having already granted summary judgment to the effect that the disputed death certificate is authentic as a matter of law, the trial judge has created a significant issue as to what information can and cannot be presented at trial. See Transcript of Summary Judgment Hearing Page 70, lines10-16:

The COURT: Because you should understand, if I grant summary judgment, we’re going to trial. If I deny summary judgment, we’re going to trial. We’re going to trial regardless, except as it relates to the issues, of course, of the – [the Judge did not finish his statement].

Clearly the Judge and counsel for Lenny Pozner are nervous that even by granting summary judgment to Lenny Pozner on the liability portion of the case, the Defendants would still have the right to present evidence about the context of the statement that the death certificate is a fake. Furthermore, the context of the statement that the death certificate is a fake revolves around a vast array of photos, videos, public records, affidavits, news clips, and expert testimony proving that Sandy Hook was a staged event.

Indeed, so fully scripted does this case appear, that the Judge even queried counsel for Noah Pozner as to what “role” Defendants would have in the damages trial. Plaintiff’s counsel asserted that we would have no “role” that involved disclosure of the circumstances of Noah Pozner’s death. Indeed, the following colloquy between the trial judge and counsel for Lenny Pozner reflects not just a lack of clarity for the remainder of this case; it shows how the trial judge had already decided I was liable for defaming Lenny Pozner, before I was permitted to present any argument in our defense. See Transcript of the Summary Judgment hearing, P. 96,  L. 5-9:

THE COURT:            So now I’ve said to you why I believe the motion for partial summary judgment on the conditional privilege is appropriate, because it does shorten the trial, simplifies the issues, potentially reduces the number of witnesses. [P. 98, L.7-9].

THE COURT:             Well if I did what you say you’re entitled to, what would be Dr. Fetzer and Mr. Palecek’s role in such a trial? [Emphasis added]. [P. 98, L.7-9].

ZIMMERMAN: I can’t say what they would want their role to be. I’m sure that they would want to cross-examine Leonard Pozner on the scope of his damages or the damage to his reputation. I’m sure that they would want to cross-examine Plaintiff’s expert on the methodology or the application of the methodology that he used to this case. I’m not sure their role, Your Honor, goes anywhere beyond that. [Emphasis added]. I think the Court can instruct the jury that the underlying question of defamation has been decided by the Court as a matter of law and the juris not to consider it, and we are here to hear—we are in the court to hear from Mr. Pozner about how this defamation injured him. [P. 98-99].

FETZER: Be—before we move too far down the yellow brick road, Your Honor, am I mistaken or do I have an opportunity to speak about the defamation issue about the death certificate in its fraudulent character? [P. 99, L.2-5].

ZIMMERMAN: I think, Your Honor, and I’m certain that Wisconsin law allows this, is to grant summary judgment on the liability question, determine as a matter of law there are no factual disputes as to any of the elements of defamation and therefore, the Defendants defamed the Plaintiff. The jury is not going to hear that aspect in the case [Noah Pozner purportedly died at Sandy Hook] or try it. [P. 104, L 3-9].

Interlocutory Review Will Protect Defendants from Substantial or Irreparable Injury

With No Opportunity to Defend against the Defamation Claim at a Jury Trial, Defendants Will Be Subject to Substantial and Irreparable injury

Wis. Stat. 808(2)(3)(b) provides for acceptance of an application for interlocutory review in order to “Protect the petitioner from substantial or irreparable injury”. In direct contradiction to the general rule that truth is a complete defense to a defamation claim, and that the truth of the alleged defamatory statement is a matter to be determined by the jury, we now have to face a jury in connection with a defamation charge; and, if Lenny Pozner has his way, we will be unable to defend ourselves. In essence, Lenny Pozner will be able to takes swings and punches at us while our hands are tied behind our backs.

With no opportunity to defend ourselves at a jury trial limited solely to money damages, we will be subject to a potentially huge and unjust jury award. Indeed, defamation cases of the kind at issue here present serious Constitutional concerns, which do not arise in the typical summary judgment cases. That is because in a defamation case, a defendant having been found liable for making a defamatory statement faces “the possibility that a jury will use the cloak of a general verdict to punish unpopular ideas or speakers,” thus creating a potential chilling effect on the freedom of speech.    Torgerson v. Journal/Sentinel,  Inc.,  210 Wis. 2d  524, 539-40,563N.W.2d 472 (1997). As a result, Wisconsin courts have a constitutional duty to scrutinize the summary  judgment record.  Torgerson,  210 Wis.2dat539-40.  Biskupic v. Cicero, 2008 WI App 117 ,¶28,313Wis.2d225,245,756N.W.2d649,658.  See also Gertz  v .Robert Welch, 418 U.S. 323, 350, 94 S. Ct. 2997, 3012 (1974) (“Juries assess punitive damages in wholly unpredictable amounts bearing no necessary relation to the actual harm caused . . . and they remain free to use their discretion selectively to punish expressions of unpopular views.”) That  is why in Wisconsin defamation cases, it is the defendant, not the plaintiff who is given a presumption of non-liability.  See Biskupic v. Cicero, supra (“summary judgment [in favor of the defendant] is an important and favored method for adjudicating public figure defamation actions.”)

  1. I Should Have the Right to Defend Myself at Trial because I Submitted Evidence that Established a Genuine Dispute of Material Facts as to Whether the Death Certificate Was a “Fake” or “Forgery”

As set forth below, it is my position that the trial judge’s exclusion of all evidence regarding the alleged Sandy Hook shooting deprived me of my right to present the context in which the allegedly defamatory statement was made and thereby establish the “truth” of my statement. However, even if it were not unlawful for the trial judge to so limit my evidence, and the case could lawfully proceed on one simple issue – the validity of “the” death certificate – the question then becomes, which one? There are five (5) different versions of the death certificate in the summary judgment record. If the death certificate were authentic, there would be only one (1) version, with or without State certification.

The first version—ostensibly, the subject of this case—is the one Lenny Pozner made available to Kelley Watt in 2014, which appeared in both editions of Nobody Died at Sandy Hook. This “first” version of the death certificate [Exhibit “2” to Transcript of Summary Judgment hearing] had no file number, redactions to the location of the burial site and to the decedent’s Social Security number, but no Town or State certifications. The second version, including changes to Noah Pozner’s residence made by Lenny Pozner, was attached as Exhibit “A” to the Complaint [Exhibit “5” to Transcript of Summary Judgment hearing]. Unlike the death certificate published in Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, the one attached as Exhibit “A” to the Complaint does have certifications from both the Town and the State. Other differences include a handwritten State file number 2012-07-078033; 2) redaction to the burial location; and 3) an empty box for the Social Security number, which was crossed out with a Sharpie pen on the version published in Nobody Died at Sandy Hook.

While these “differences” on their face would surely support a dispute as to whether the death certificate published in the book was “fake” or “forged,” to borrow a line from Paul McCartney—Please, Please, Please—just consider for one moment the explanation given by Lenny Pozner as to why he changed the residence of his purported son after he died. To whom is this information relevant? At the time of the Sandy Hook event, death certificates in Connecticut were a public record as a matter of law. According to Lenny Pozner, he wanted to make sure the public knew that Noah Pozner had lived with him more than with his mother. However, at the time Lenny Pozner “corrected” the copy of Noah Pozner’s death certificate on Exhibit “A” to the Complaint, the Newton registrar, Debbie Aurelia, was refusing to issue death certificates to the public for any of the persons declared to have died at Sandy Hook. [See page 318, Nobody Died at            Sandy    Hook;       see          also      Hartford         Courant,  22           May   2013    located        at https://www.courant.com/opinion/editorials/hc-ed-newtown-town-clerk-ignores-law-on-death-cert-20130522-story.html (“Ms. Aurelia is refusing to honor requests to see death certificates of those who were murdered by Adam Lanza—even though death certificates by law or custom have always been open records.”)] Furthermore, if Lenny Pozner had “corrected” the death certificate on 5 May 2013, then why did he post a copy on the SandyHookFacts.com website without those corrections? Such irregularity, in turn, creates a genuine dispute as to whether the death certificate is a “fake.” See e.g., Schuster v. Germantown Mutual Insurance Co., 40 Wis. 2d 447, 452, 162 N.W.2d 129, 131 (1968), which states:

If the party opposing the motion for summary judgment submits sufficient facts which show there is a real controversy and takes the matter challenged by the motion out of the category of being a sham and unmeritorious suit or defense, that party is normally entitled to a trial on the merits.

Insofar as we had called the death certificate a fake before we even knew that it had been supplanted by another (equally suspicious) version, it can hardly be said that our position is a “sham” or an “unmeritorious” defense. Furthermore, to the extent there is any question as to whether such circumstances create a genuine factual dispute as to whether “the” death certificate is fake, all doubt must be resolved in favor of the  Defendants. See Miller v. Minority Bhd. of  Fire  Prot.,158  Wis.2d589,597,463N.W.2d690,693 (Ct.App.1990 )(“The court determine only whether a factual issue exists, resolving doubts in that regard against the party moving for summary judgment.”)

Having stated a compelling argument above why these two (2) versions of the death certificate create a genuine dispute whether the death certificate is “fake,” along came a third version. After being served with the Complaint in November 2018, my co-defendant, Dave Gahary, publisher and co-defendant Wrongs Without Wremedies, obtained his own certified copy from the Newtown Registrar, Debbie Aurelia. [See Exhibit “6” to Transcript of Summary Judgment hearing]. The version he obtained has Debbie Aurelia’s Town certification, but it has only a partial printed file number with four digits,  the first of which is obscure; but the other numbers are 243. Notably, these digits do not correspond to the handwritten file number of the death certificate attached as Exhibit “A” to the Complaint. It also had no redactions and an empty box for the Social Security number. The fourth distinct version of the death certificate is one I myself obtained from the Connecticut Department of Public Health. [See Exhibit “7” to Transcript of Summary Judgment hearing]. This fourth version has the same handwritten file number as the version attached as Exhibit “A to the Complaint – 2012-07-078033. However, unlike Exhibit “A” to the Complaint, Exhibit “7” contains no REDACTED mark for Box #’s 29 and 30 for input of information regarding disposition of the body and location of the burial.

The fifth version of the death certificate on record in this case is the one introduced on the day of the Summary Judgment hearing by counsel for Lenny Pozner. With no advance notice, counsel introduced two death certificates, each bearing the original embossed seal of Debbie Aurelia, Town Registrar, which he represented contained no “material differences” with the death certificate he had provided to Kelley Watt. Indeed, upon close inspection of Exhibit 2 and Exhibit 4, there are “punch holes” on the left side of each death certificate that appear to exactly align with one another. However, where the death certificates do not align is such a key piece of evidence that it is determinative of this matter – and there is no certification on Exhibit 4 from the Town Registrar, Debbie Aurelia. As set forth below, any death certificate in the State of Connecticut without certification from the Town Registrar is invalid and inauthentic. Knowing full well that we would discern the death certificate provided by Lenny Pozner to Kelley Watt to be a fake because of its lack of certification from the Town Registrar, he knew that we would take the bait and call it “fake.”

Connecticut Law Requires Death Certificates to Be Certified by Town Registrars In Connecticut, a certified copy of a death certificate may be issued at either the town or the state level. Conn. Gen. Stat. Sec. 7-36(5). The Town Clerk is the Registrar of Vital Statistics within the town, Sec. 7-37(a), and in Newtown, it is Debbie Aurelia. The Town Registrar registers the original death record and submits a certified copy to the State Department of Public Health and Vital Statistics, which then can also issue certified copies itself. Conn. Gen. Stat.  Sec. 7-40 says, “The registrar of vital statistics in each town shall have an official seal that shall be provided by the town and shall be used to authenticate certificates and copies of record.” [Emphasis added].

Debbie Aurelia’s signature at the bottom of the document is not the required certification, but rather is her statement of when the certificate was received by her for recording, as required by Conn. Gen. Stat. Sec. 7-42. However, there is no certification by Debbie Aurelia of the version at Exhibit 4. Moreover, under Connecticut law, only a person who is an approved genealogical researcher or employee of a state or federal agency can obtain an uncertified copy of a death certificate. See Conn. Gen. Stat. Sec. 7-51a (2012). Lenny Pozner is no genealogical researcher.

  • The Trial Judge Committed Reversible Error by Engaging in The Fact-Finding Process to Resolve Issues Of Disputed Material Fact

Summary judgment methodology prohibits the Court from deciding an issue of fact. The Court determines only whether a factual issue exists, resolving all doubts in that regard against the party moving for summary judgment.  Miller v. Minority Bhd. of Fire Prot., 158 Wis. 2d  589, 597, 463 N.W.2d 690, 693 (Ct. App. 1990). Moreover, the truth or falsity of an allegedly defamatory statement is a question of fact for the fact finder.   See Fields Foundation,  Ltd. v. Christensen,  103  Wis. 2d 465, 484, 309 N.W.2d 125, 135 (Ct. App. 1981) (Whether a defamatory statement is or is not substantially true is a question of fact.) Indeed, the great Oliver Wendell Holmes once warned against a single judge determining the truth or falsity of an allegedly defamatory  statement:  “No  central  arbiter  can  pretend to unerringly detect objective reality.” See Abrams v. United States, 250 U.S. 616, 630, 40 S. Ct. 17, 63 L. Ed. 1173 (1919) (Holmes, J., dissenting). [Emphasis added]. Clearly, the trial judge utilized his own personal opinions and experience to resolve the dispute over the several different versions of the death certificate. The trial judge even offered his own testimony:

The COURT:              Dr. Fetzer, as a lawyer, I am a notary. I’ve got to tell you, I don’t recall ever being given instructions on where to make the embossed, whether I put it—sometimes it’s hard because it only has a reach into the document of a certain length because of the squeeze on the embossed stamp. I also do have a court seal as well. So I’m just saying, when you get a chance to say something, I just want to let you know, because unless I tell you these things, then you would not know that as a government official, a notary in the State of Wisconsin, I’ve never been told where to put it. Usually I put it over my signature, but I—but I’ve never to my knowledge been made aware that there’s a right or wrong place to put these things. So keep your thoughts. [P. 46, L. 1-8]

I want you to—I will tell you Fetzer, I understand all of their explanations, explanations. . . . in my opinion, seem legitimate and plausible and persuasive. [P. 122, L. 4-9].

Dr. Fetzer, you have correctly pointed out on more than one occasion the differences between the various copies. That does not alone indicate that any one of them are false, it only demonstrates a difference. [P. 154, L 14]

I’ve looked at the exhibits. I follow and track all of the explanations that have been provided by the Plaintiff as to explaining the differences between the various forms and copies of the death certificates. All of that makes sense to me and provide a plausible and acceptable explanation for those differences. [Emphasis added]. [P. 163, L 9-14]

  1. Interlocutory Review Should Be Granted Because It Will Clarify an Issue of General Importance in the Administration of Justice as the Denial of My Right to Present the Context of the Allegedly Defamatory Statements Violated My Constitutional Right to Due Process

The United States Supreme Court has held that the States may constitutionally allow private individuals to recover damages for defamation on the basis of any standard of care except liability without fault. Gertz v. Robert Welch, 418 U.S. 323, 339, 94 S. Ct. 2997, 3006 (1974).

Applying such standard to the law of Wisconsin, if one establishes that an allegedly defamatory statement is true, it is a complete defense to a defamation claim. It is not necessary that the article or statement in question be true in every particular. All that is required is that the statement be substantially true.  Smith v. Journal Co. (1955), 271Wis.384,389,73N.W.(2d)

  1. Moreover, the truth or falsity of an allegedly defamatory statement is strictly within the province of the jury. See Fields  Found., Ltd. v. Christensen, 103Wis.2d465,484,309N.W.2d 125, 135 (Wis. Ct. App. 1981). See also Restatement 2d of Torts, § 617(b) (Subject to the control of the court whenever the issue arises, the jury determines whether the matter was true or false). By bifurcating my abuse of process claim and granting a protective order on discovery relating to the Sandy Hook event, I have been prevented from presenting the context in which I claimed that the death certificate produced by Lenny Pozner was “fake.”  Such actions are a clear abrogation of the law of natural justice that every person shall “have their day in court.” As stated in Harris v. Hardeman, 55 U.S.334,341,14L.Ed.444(1852):  “No man is to be condemned without the opportunity of making a defence, or to have his property taken from him by a judicial sentence, without the privilege of showing, if he can, the claim against him to be unfounded.” The complete excise of the context from the truth of our allegedly defamatory statement did, in essence, deprive the defendants of “their day in court.”
  1. The Failure of the Judge to Provide Adequate Time for Discovery Was a Violation of Due Process

From the beginning, the trial judge acted with reckless disregard for the rights of Defendants, adopting a rigid and fixed schedule for the trial to proceed, independent of what discovery might yield along the way. Summary Judgment Motions were due on 30 April 2019, and oral argument on 17 June 2019. Discovery, however, was permitted until 9 September 2019. Consider that the Scheduling Order was issued on 15 March 2019, and the deadline for Summary Judgment was only six (6) week-days later. It was a practical impossibility for me to perform the necessary depositions and discovery to prepare my objections, especially when crucial witnesses are in the State of Connecticut, and I am a thousand miles away in the State of Wisconsin.

Notwithstanding the short window provided for depositions and the far distance required for travel, the trial judge scolded me for not taking depositions quick enough. See the trial judge’s admonition below, regarding my objection to Lenny Pozner’s Proposed Finding that he was married to a woman named Veronique De LaRosa:

[i]f you thought that they were not married or they were not married in 2003 or they were not divorced in 2014, then to dispute that you would say, Judge, that is disputed because I — I took a deposition of Veronique De La Rosa and she said she never married him [Protective Order Hearing Transcript P. 110 -111, L. 22-1]

It is well established that summary judgment is appropriate only when sufficient time for discovery has passed. Chase Manhattan Bank v. Banks, 2005 WI App 1, 277 Wis. 2d 875, 690 N.W.2d 885. The trial judge established a summary judgment deadline with such a short discovery window that the Scheduling Order does not withstand Constitutional scrutiny. Such deprivation of the undersigned’s due process rights demands corrective guidance to set a proper precedent for the courts of Wisconsin in the administration of justice.

WHEREFORE, for the foregoing reasons, Defendants respectfully request that their Application for Interlocutory review be granted.

Dated:  6 July 2019                                                                           Signed:/s/ James Fetzer

James Fetzer, Pro Se

Dated:  6 July 2019                                                                             Signed:/s/ Mike Palecek

Mike Palecek, Pro Se

NOTE: This petition was prepared with the assistance of a lawyer whose license is not active, Alison Maynard, Colorado Bar Registration No. 16561.

I James Fetzer certify that this Application for Interlocutory Review in serif contains 7,981 words (exclusive of this page

Dated:  6 July 2019                                                                           Signed:    /s/ James Fetzer

James Fetzer, Pro Se

Jim Fetzer, a former Marine Corps Officer, is McKnight Professor Emeritus on the Duluth Campus of the University of Minnesota and co-founder (with Mike Palecek) of moonrockbooks.com.

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76 thoughts on “Jim Fetzer, The Sandy Hook “Pozner v. Fetzer” Lawsuit: Defendants’ Application for Appellate Court Review”

  1. Professor Fetzer: as a licensed attorney, I am compelled to observe that this appeal is a trainwreck.

    I hereby offer you – for the final time – $50,000, in exchange for a scan of your DD-214.

    While I understand you do not believe my offer is legitimate, it’s not like you have anything to lose at this point. Just post the damn thing. Or better yet, admit that you are a liar and false patriot who never served in the Marines.


    1. As best I remember, Fetzer agreed under his conditions. YOU failed to follow through.
      Btw, since you have stated you are a licensed attorney, why not post YOUR CREDENTIALS?

      We’ll all be waiting.

      1. And IF you are a licensed attorney, instead of HOLLOW criticism of what Fetzer had filed, why not offer something CONSTRUCTIVE.

      2. Professor Fetzer agreed, with a bunch of extra conditions and strings and contingencies calculated to bury the issue. If he had a DD-214 he would have posted it already. He doesn’t have one because never served. Simple logic.

    2. Dr Fetzer did already agree and has proved through pictures . Also you never followed through .

      Not to mention it’s irrelevant anyway (although he has proved his service) there would

      A) be zero motivation to make that up “what would here be to gain “

      B) even if by some wild stretch of the imagination he did make up being in the service it’s not consequential. Has zero to do with sandy hook the anomalies the purposeful scrubbing and blatant attack on free speech for control of a narrative .

      Motion to second the opinion on waiting for your credentials.

      Also clearly you don’t have an actual helping heart.
      You wouldn’t be so narrowly focused and add something of value about the article . Instead of just stating “this is a train wreck”

      Another note that is a large item dismissed within the event

      A) random
      Kid defying logic , killing 26 people with no reason , no ability and no historicity zero I repeat zero motivation “it’s never happened before”

      Than James Fetzer lies about his credentials to seem more
      Qualified or something? Which he’s already an esteemed professor so no need to add to that qualification but ok I guess ? To edit and help publish a book he gives away for free , than subsequently get attacked and sued while still holding his ground throughout when he could have fought to dismiss the case or gone the statute of limitations route .

      B) or as Eric holder publically stated and Obama made legal through the smith mundt moderation act . An event was staged in order to confiscate guns . This has motivation plausibility and historicity .

      B accounts for all anomalies

      A just leaves a bunch of questions and makes well zero sense

    3. This is childish beyond belief! Military photos are typically very similar. This is insulting to anyone of any intelligence. Did John McCain also graduate from Princeton? Was he also commissioned at graduation? Did he also serve at the USMC Recruit Depot in San Diego? Was he also photographed with the Regimental Training Command staff? Was he also promoted to Captain, USMC? Did he also have his bars put on his shoulder by my ex-wife?


    4. This is childish and insulting to anyone of any intelligence. Military photos are typically very similar. But John McCain did not serve in the Marine Corps. Did John McCain graduate from Princeton? Was John McCain commissioned a 2nd Lt. USMC at graduation? Did John McCain serve at the USMC Recruit Depot in San Diego? Was John McCain photographed with the staff of the Regimental Training Command? Was John McCain promoted to Captain, USMC? Did John McCain have his bars pinned on his shoulders by my first wife?

      James Fetzer

      1. Except for the top left photo, none of those photos are you. They are manipulated photos of the late Senator McCain.

      1. Wikipedia is an unreliable, partisan source. It holds up the Sandy Hook event as a real shooting in which people died. It is no more reliable on the question of Professor Fetzer’s false military career.

  2. The nightmare SH case is a hot-potato that lawyers do not want to touch. This is probably because it reveals that the entire Government-Federal/State/Local and all three Branches of them are totally corrupt.

    Prof. Jim is doing the best he can, given that he’s up against a rock wall of total corruption.

    Yes, we can be sure that any judge that goes against the SH media narrative will receive a visit from the CIA et al.

    Remember that Halbig was menaced by a visit from Florida police who told him to “keep his mouth shut about Sandy Hook or else”.

  3. Trolls have a single overall way of interacting with their prey. They have this whiny, go along, way that is readily distinguishable. Put a dozen names on the same troll individually and the troll can easily be picked out. Easily. Trolls have a job to do, usually placed so they can utter disinformation, lies,fibs, and they make themselves known, very well known. The way to deal with these cretins is to not pay attention to them whatsoever. It’s how I deal with ’em and I can readily pick ’em out.

  4. Going back to the time of the actual event and even a bit before, it was always clear to me that if Eric Holder was instate just prior to the event that evil doings were just around the corner. At this time period, too, it became obvious to many that the massive resources of the government would be used to keep this event from being studied too assiduously by sharp eyed investigators. From the original press conferences to the farcical declaration by Lt. Vance of the Connecticut State Police that opinions other that those profferred by the agency would be met with what appeared to be a peculiar form of treacherous non-legal adjudication. Vance, to my view, was the overt linchpin that showed the authorities would go to any depth to obscure illumination of the truth of the overall event and its eventual no-holds barred obfuscations. Some investigators have felt that such a false flag might well have Mossad underpinnings, also. Needless to say, like the JFK assassination and other killings, the order of the day post-event has always been the cover-up where money is no object to bury the facts. SH is such an event that has followed that tried and truth pathway to pull the wool over the eyes of the public.

    1. The justice system is “JUST US ” … eustace mullins described it as the Babylonian Debt system. Gerry Spence, famous Jackson Hole lawyer who’s law firm occupies an entire city block wrote a book called ‘Justice For None” … the title says it all. Jeffrey Epstein was just arrested for trafficking in underage girls. Those in power who could fall with his testimony include high powered politicians and likely Judges too. That’s if Epstein is allowed to live.

      1. Gerry Spence..now there’s a man to get in Fetzer’s corner.
        You can bet Epstein will live….be damn sure he has his butt covered with material that will be released if anything happens.
        That said, this is one instance where I would favor the gallows..sooner than later…

      2. well put Will. I tend to agree. he has insurance better than “State Farm is there!” any ideas on the big names to fall?

      3. But as that article states (with Comey’s daughter as a prosecutor) AND for other reasons, this may just be so much theater and bluster. I think it’s a fairly good assumption from the many stories we have heard through the years that perversion is rampant through our CONgress, the Royals and ‘elitist’ society. Will these creatures be held to account? I’m not holding my breath.
        Remember, as much as we hate to hear it, because most of these animals exist or reside in independent city/states that operate under their own rules, the justice we seek is virtually impossible. most are literally beyond what we term ‘the law’.

      4. Jeffrey Epstein will live and be given an imaginary jail sentence. Why? Because he’s supposedly Mossad as is Ghislaine Maxwell. Epstein’s the name, blackmail is the game.

        Fetzer’s case is one of the biggest in US history. Blowing the doors off the Sandy Hoax episode cannot be allowed by the perpetrators. Think we’ll ever see 911 boned out and totally solved? Not gonna happen, the Federales will put whatever money it takes to keep the shell game going.

        One of the problems with finding legal representation is that a sharp attorney likely knows he will be paid a social call by CIA/FBI should he be part of Jim’s defense. I hope I’m wrong on this, but on the brighter side, perhaps an attorney can work anonymously and funnel the information to Jim and Mike and still remain in one piece.

      5. Absolute truth.
        And if Trump was half the man he said he was in the ‘campaign’, the list to be imprisoned would be from the Who’s Who of the Hollyweird and political elite.
        But he is not…he’s a Zionist shill beholden to Israel and the banksters who bailed him out years ago and OWN HIS SOUL.

      6. Even if Epstein does go to prison, who here thinks Trump will not issue a pardon for his Zionist buddy, eh?

      7. Then again, we have this from Jim Stone and it could carry some weight since Stone is a well known anti-Zionist…so if he’s claiming Trump severed relations with Epstein quite a while back, it may well be close to the truth.

        Just to throw this out there –
        I would like to repeat and clarify: Epstein definitely was a deep state gatekeeper, who had the job of keeping top politicians in line.
        There’s no other way to see it. If he was running a sex plane to a sex island that was run exclusively for the top of the top of the top tier people, and he filmed them all IN SECRET, that’s exactly what it was. Anyone who stepped out of line would be immediately shown screwing someone far too young, while married or committed elsewhere, while in office, the whole 9 yards, – he got ALL OF THEM on video without them being told. Of course it was a blackmail operation to keep the deep state in line. It gave all the leverage needed to instantly jail those who stepped out of line.

        I seriously doubt Bill has done anything of significance with Hillary since Chelsea (she’s probably his), Hillary is far too repulsive and Bill is far too much of a player. Lolita express 27 times, plus Monica and probably 30 others . . . . . THAT BOY is going to toe the line come hell or high water. Obama could likely be exposed simply by telling the truth about Michael, who looks more and more feminine as time goes on and the hormones work better . . . . you know – that Ellen incident and many many more . . . . I’d be genuinely surprised if that story was off. One way or another, they have them ALL nailed except Trump.

        There are lots of stories now floating around about Trump being Epstein’s top client, but there’s a problem, NO TAPE. Trump figured out what Epstein was in the 90’s and banned Epstein ever since. It is one thing to get on the Lolita express ONE TIME without knowing what it is, and then walking away in disgust, and then banning Epstein from all your resorts. They were not pals after that. Trump had influence, and Epstein tried to nail everyone who was at Trump’s level.

        The bottom line is that Trump has never had a thing for underage girls. And to top that off, he had options. Why go there?

        The only thing Epstein has in his favor with all of this is that he did not kill the girls when he was done with them. That’s a fair shade better than Hillary with her upscale facial masks.

  5. Its rare but Judicial Misconduct does happen. This care appears to be such. The Judge has failed to give the Defendant a fair hearing. The Judge has also failed to understand what this case is all about. Its a lot more than a fake Death Certificate.

    Its like a murder case where the Judge is only concerned about the accused having an overdue parking citation.

    1. Actually, the case itself is specifically based on what the defendant claims is a fake death certificate. That’s what he’s being sued for, so it should be easier for him to defend his case since that’s the only focus of the charges.
      Your murder/parking citation analogy makes no sense because Fetzer isn’t being charged with what he has said about Sandy Hook, much like a murder suspect wouldn’t be charged for a parking citation. Fetzer is being sued for defamation of one specific person and not anyone else involved in Sandy Hook.

      1. That makes zero sense if it’s “easier for the defendant “ why would the plaintiff be in favor of narrowing down the scope and defendant be trying to expand the scope ?

        Because the Plaintiff is wants the case to be more challenging ?

        That’s about the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read .

      2. It should be easy for Jim to prove the death certificate is a fake or fraudulent. He failed to do so in court because he didn’t follow the proper procedures in the Wisconsin rules of evidence. This is where an attorney would be helpful. That’s all he needed to focus on, so it was a relatively easy case in that way. Even the judge said this at the oral argument. Jim instead focused on the differences of each death certificate submitted as evidence, and the plaintiff gave the reasons for their differences. As an example, a death certificate can be ordered through the state or through the county. The state puts a file number on the certificate, and the county does not.
        Jim’s experts focused on the differences in the certificates but did not give any proof of fraudulent documents. Again, this is where an attorney would be helpful. An attorney could find better experts that would submit better evidence that conform with the rules. An attorney would also prepare filings that narrow down the scope solely on the death certificate issue.

  6. Dear Jim: I am afraid you have totally flunked the ‘logic of corruption’. It’s almost like you are a little bunny rabbit living with the foxes here. I was frankly pretty sure it would go exactly as it has. You can bet your sweet behind that the CIA/FBI are lurking in every dark corner of your so-called ‘case’. If this truckload of radioactive rotten fish cracks open, 9/11 is sure to be next. That’s just how seriously they are taking it.

    I don’t know if you need to ‘get a lawyer’ or not. (Maybe they could sort out the quantum physics of how there can be no actual demise, yet a death certificate can nonetheless be perfectly valid.) Maybe buy some gold and have a very unfortunate boating accident? Putting this all out in public was a very good idea. Maybe there’s even some tiny chance that you will in some way ‘prevail’ (sure).

    I think you could use some help from the fantastic Eric Zuesse, or some of the very rare people like him — absolutely.

    Just to let you get some fresh air and get your mind off this fiasco, I have my own troubles for you to contemplate. With hand injury, it hurts like hell for me to even type this, and yet I am fighting a ferocious word-battle, which is evolving at:

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    Just never stop fighting. I’m absolutely sure that a gentleman with your talents can always find a way to keep it going! Never give up!

  7. imgur.com/MLjwlfz

    The red and blue circles in that photo represent where the book Room 10 photos were taken. The red circle is where the Meehan parking lot photo was taken, the blue is where the state police truck photo was done.Look how far away the window is from the cars. That’s the best Fetzer can do, a court is going to need something better than that to prove the window was undamaged in the crime scene photos.

    1. Bob, you are full of it! Unreal. Anyone can download the book for free and see how you are prevaricating here. And of course that’s because you ARE a prevaricator! What else should we expect? You prove it and burnish your credentials every time you post.

      1. Is there a clear, close-up, unedited photo of the undamaged Room 10 window in the book? Not a crop of the Meehan photo, not a photo with the window 40 yards away and at an angle.

    2. The court doesn’t care about any of the evidence Jim presents other than the birth certificate. The problem is that Jim continues to present items in his arguments that are irrelevant to the case. His evidence is hearsay and based on opinion. Both are inadmissible in court.

      1. This may be the most incredibly stupid comment ever posted on one of my blogs. It’s the “death” certificate that is in question, not the birth certificate. And none of my evidence is either hearsay or based merely on opinion. That’s just grotesque. You are like the Court in dismissing the reports of two forensic document examiners who laid out their reasons for concluding that ALL FOUR OF THE DEATH CERTIFICATES THAT HAD SURFACE WERE FABRICATIONS. I am sorry, but you are pathetic–as a liar, you come across as incredibly stupid. Really, give us a break and take your BS elsewhere. We have proof for all of it.

      2. Why isn’t the birth certificate in question? If the Noah death certificates are fake, doesn’t that mean his birth certificate would be as well? Your book doesn’t mention any doubts about the birth certificate being authentic.

      3. I meant death certificate. It was a typo, but I can’t edit my post now.

        Hearsay definition: Evidence that is offered by a witness of which they do not have direct knowledge but, rather, their testimony is based on what others have said to them.

        Your book is filled with hearsay because you weren’t there as a witness, and your evidence relies on whatever the other authors put forth in their chapters. They too were not witnesses to the events.

        For your document expert, you did not provide them with the digital file that Pozner had uploaded to his site. Instead, you had them review the digital files that were in your possession or found on a different website than Pozner’s. Through the discovery process, you can subpoena Pozner for documents, digital and in paper form, but you didn’t request the copy that Pozner had in his possession or the one uploaded to his website.

        It’s also worth noting that you stated in court that you no longer thought the death certificate was a photoshop of two different death certificates merged into one copy. From there, you stated all four death certificates were fake/forged but provided no evidence as to why. This is the main point of the judge’s ruling. Sure, the four certificates may look different in certain ways, but the plaintiff (with testimony provided by others) showed why there were differences that you later accepted as fact. I think the major issue is that you did not get the first certificate from Pozner yourself. You received it from Kelley Watt and trusted her word. However, we go back to the hearsay issue because you did not verify the information on your own and relied on what someone else told you.

      4. That’s incorrect

        Nobody died at Sandy Hook is not “all heresay” when you take photographs and events and objectively analyze them using historicity plausibility probability and logic .That isn’t heresay

        It’s called having a hypothesis. Than finding evidence to support said hypothesis. Expert opinion than is not heresay . In a murder case a blood spatter analysts looks at blood than draws his conclusion and his “opinion” is valid and evidentiary in court .

        There are plenty of examples of said process in the book if you read it . Not to say every single item of evidence is presented in this matter but there’s a lot . I suggest reading it . Also watching the film “we need to talk about sandy hook”

        Another point is all mainstream media is considered heresay in court .

        The different death certificates came from Debby Aurelia “town registrar” and from Kelly Watt swearing an affidavit of truth coming from Leanord Pozner

        The professional document examiners concluded all of the death certificates to be fake this includes the one attached to the complaint .

        Mainly the one in the book

        If Fetzer has a document that is fake . Than says this is a fake . This is where it came from .

        That is truth and non defamatory

        So if someone gives me a fake death certificate for Ronald Reagan . Swears to me this came from his son

        Than I allow it to be published and say “hey this is fake this is where it came from “

        That well is truth by definition . “Not to mention media outlets do this with interviews all the time without getting sued hmmmm”

        What your saying is because , he relied on the dc from Kelly watt ….. oh wait he didn’t cause another copy came from the registrar and is materially different from the one coming from Kelly Watt, not to mention they all look purposefully ludicrous as if to bait someone into noticing it .

        Also the thesis is that the event in itself was fake therefor the document has to be fake . Just because somebody stamped a seal and file number on a document doesn’t make it real. If it’s not representing an actual dead individual

        Not allowing evidence to prove the fake event destroys and purposefully pigeon holes the case , than your just arguing whether something has a seal on it . Also it’s not the document in the book therefor materially different .

        Also didn’t you in another post accuse Fetzer of faking the document in the book ?

        So which is it he relied on a fake or made a fake ?

        You can’t keep your ad hominem attacks straight .

        Also The defense that it couldn’t be the same one Pozner uploaded was that the file size was different

        Anyone whose ever zipped or compressed a file knows image size is not fixed and can be altered depending on how you save and upload or download it . That is ridiculously weak evidence

        Refer also to my prior post about plausibility of explanations .

      5. Keefer, Jim is not going through the scientific method, and I’ve read the book. The scientific method is to develop a hypothesis after conducting research. From there, the hypothesis is tested and conclusions are drawn. Proper testing means you have to subject the data to information that could potentially prove it to be wrong. Jim’s book jumps a few steps, ignores data the could disprove his hypothesis, but then decides to publish the data without the contradictory information. Even then, Jim would have been fine and could have gone about his business without any serious repercussion. His book wouldn’t have been accepted as scientific evidence, but he had every right to publish it and express what he believed. Instead, he singled out a private citizen and insisted that Pozner was providing falsified documents. That’s what this lawsuit is about.

      6. “Nobody died at Sandy Hook is not “all hearsay” when you take photographs and events and objectively analyze them using historicity plausibility probability and logic”

        In the first chapter Dr Eowyn does not use logic at all. She shows this photo:


        Had the Dr checked the report she would have seen on Sunday the 16th, cops moved stuff from rooms 8 & 10 so they could look for more evidence. Did she check the report and ignore it or did she not check at all? Either way, that’s bad research. If you’re going to objectively present evidence, then the section of the report describing why that stuff is in the hallway should have been included.

      7. 1bighawk…The UCC or maritime law is not science. It’s a labyrinth of procedures, legal terms, obscure doctrines and out-dated concepts purposefully devised so the average man cannot possibly come out ahead once he is aboard the ship of fools unless the outcome serves the crown.
        Science is objective. There is no objectivity within the ‘legal system’ here and in the UK as it exists and is skewed only to benefit the state.

      8. “And none of my evidence is either hearsay or based merely on opinion.”

        Chapter six of your book is titled “Even Obama officials confirmed that it was a drill ”

        There is no statement from an Obama official in your book. There is someone name Paul Preston claiming an inside source in the White House told him Sandy Hook was a false flag. That is hearsay.

      9. Your incompetence is showing. Paul Preston was so disturbed by what he watched being broadcast from Newtown that day that he reached out to his contacts in the Obama Department of Education, all of whom confirmed to him that it had been a drill, that no children had died and that it was done to promote gun control. First-hand knowledge as reported in the book, which I would appear you have never bothered to read. It’s embarrassing how you lie through your teeth. But then, both the facts and the law are on my side, so you really don’t have a lot of choices. The truth, for you, is ruled out by your role in perpetrating deception.

      10. If you had quotes from named Obama officials in your book, that would be direct knowledge. Paul Preston repeating what he was allegedly told is hearsay.

    3. @ James Fetzer

      It’s unreal . I honestly can’t even read what he says anymore it’s such convuluted irrelevant minutia and even the phrasing

      Meehan photos , Welkey scene the red circle ⭕️ dictates where , excuse me wtf are you even talking about ?

      This article is about a court hearing and a death certificate.

      I retract my previous statement Jim , I think it’s a blessing you don’t have an attorney . It’s an appeal to people about where we stand within our system.

      How is it we are brainwashed to think . That it’s ok to have a system of governance (control) so obtuse “ legalese “ that we are considered foolish to try and take part (acting pro se’) and defend ourselves lest a rule of the game be broken ? It’s truly preposterous.

      What tyranny , how ludicrous

      The truth is simple . The documents are not the same , even if you were completely wrong (which you aren’t no one died everyone knows that, this lawsuit and endless scrubbing of evidence is only proof positive of the collusion ) the assertions are made with good reason and no purposeful malice . Therefor not defamatory.

      The fact we allow this to operate the way it does is insane .

      Millions of downloads of the book , tens of thousands of sites “items” scrubbed I’ve yet to speak with someone who believes the mainstream narrative .

      In short

      1. Keef…..I agree totally. Somehow, this all has to be cleansed. The TRUTH must take precedence over procedure and legal inanity. Maritime law and the UCC have to be flushed down the toilet and common law MUST become a means of justice.
        We are humans, not that capitalized name created by the monstrous system that has been running and ruining our very existence far too long.

      2. Ey ! Yo has anyone been able to get this micheal deacon link to work in the article ?

        Anywhere else we can listen

      3. It was a weird download. It started downloading, but I could not see it anywhere and then after about an hour, it came up from who knows where….but it was one I had watched previously, so I did not keep it. I’ll look around for anothere version.

  8. Don’t Feed The Trolls

    The reason we respond to negative comments is the same reason a troll does what they do: ego. When someone unknown comes at us, it’s part of our human nature to defend ourselves. A part of us doesn’t want to stay silent, because we think silence means surrendering, and surrendering means losing. That’s just a bad philosophy.

    After years of dealing with this kind of behavior, both in a virtual reality and in the comment sections of an article, the harsh reality is this: YOU WILL NEVER BEAT A TROLL. You will never change a troll’s mind. You may delude yourself into thinking that you proved them wrong, however, never in my years of dealing with trolls have I seen a troll lay down his or her arms and say, “You know what, you’re right. I was so wrong.”
    You cannot stop them.
    But you can ignore them.
    Just a flea to be flicked away.

    1. Dear Will,
      I wanted to congratulate Jim on his excellent website/blog which might be judged as a positive aspect of his getting sacked by Mr Duff from Veterans Today
      and express my regret I cannot assist him in his legal case because I’m unfamiliar with Wisconsin law. What you write about attitude and behaviour to posts written by persons you call trolls avoids exertion of thinking. Why do you presume to change somebody’s mind? Why do you think your thought must be evident to others? What is written by persons you call trolls may very well provoke others to consider new aspects and try to express them. Sounds to me you are quite satisfied with yourself.

      1. @ peter

        Read his statement again and than read what you just said .

        Than go over the definition of free speech , and the meaning of defamation , and than read every blog on this page

        Than read the sandy hook final report and all other related reports .

        Than read the smith mundt modernization act .

        Than do a few good months research on what propaganda is and it’s place in history.

        Than we can have an intelligent conversation . Which would be breath taking !

      2. If you had been following this blog carefully, you would understand to whom this is directed. That person offers nothing of value to this forum and serves only as an interruption and dis-info agent. I do believe the Dr, has tried to ban him but he comes in under different addresses. Even Dr. Fetzer has admitted it could be Leonard Pozner himself.

      3. If Mr Posner takes the trouble to formulate posts here, I hope he will decide soon to identify himself.

      1. Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers.
        A peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked.
        If Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers,
        Where’s the peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked

      2. @Peter
        Excuse me ? Quoting professors where ?

        Asking you to research a topic before having an intellectual discussion isn’t quoting anyone . Do you know what a quote is ? Although it’s cute you would think my feeble constructed observations are that of a PhD quote far from it .

        And it doesn’t take a doctorate to think critically and speak from ones own mind.

        Although apparently you don’t know the difference between a step and half brother so I don’t know if Your on a cognitive level to have any sort of fruitful interaction period . I don’t mean that necessarily in a derogatory manner .

        Just if you can’t grasp ground level concepts I don’t know we can discuss anything .

        The issue is the answer is never simple enough to deduce to one blog post

        If you want specific research topics let’s start of with “Propaganda” by Edward Barnays

        It would give you a clear definition or understanding of troll and shill and group think

        Sigmond Fraud has some excellent work on group psychology

        And our own James Fetzer has several books on cognition and logical thinking .

        Again though prerequisite may require you to read the pop tart toaster instruction manual before reaching up to college level rationale or inductive and deductive reasoning

      3. Keef…Peter cannot even answer my simple question:

        Where’s the peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked??

  9. ““Noah Pozner” is a Fiction Created from Photos of his Older Step-Brother Michael Vabner”

    You still do not know the difference between a step-brother and a half-brother. As you stated, Pozner pointed out that Noah/Michael had the same mother. And as pointed out in the June 17th hearing, resemblance is not evidence, it’s basically just someones opinion.

    If you want to prove the crime scene photos were taken a day or two before the 14th, you’re going to have to do better than the blurry, cropped, far away photos you have presented so far.

    Show a clear, up-close, unedited photo of undamaged Room 10 window. You can’t though, because the report has no such photo.

    1. Of course! That’s why eye-witnesses who identify perps cannot be taken seriously; why photo IDs are pointless; why no images of any scene should be relied upon in a legal proceeding: they are based upon resemblance relations and therefore (according to you) are worthless evidentially. I am sorry, Bob, but you have exceeded your idiocy quota for the day. You are a complete and total fraud. We all know it. And each time you post, you confirm it. This is a classic example.

    2. Dear Bob,

      That’s an interesting possible comparison I have failed to make. Is the relation between half-brother and step-brother of the same kind as the relation between bachelor and unmarried man?

      Please do express what you consider the best explanation of the difference between a step- and half-brother.

      1. You really don’t know?

        If a woman with a son marries a man with a son, those sons would be step-brothers. If a woman with a son marries a man and those two have a son together, those sons are half-brothers.

      2. Thanks, Bob, but I had hoped and still hope you would express the relationship in an “abstract” general form.

  10. Jim,
    Hire an attorney. Your understanding of the rules of evidence for Wisconsin is lacking, and this appeal won’t see the light of day. You bring up irrelevant information constantly in this brief, and that will only devalue your argument.

  11. I James Fetzer certify that this Application for Interlocutory Review in serif contains 7,981 words

    Dr….Is the purpose of that statement to be certain there are no additions or subtractions to the original?

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