Caitlin Johnstone, Seven Reasons to be Highly Skeptical of The Gulf of Oman Incident

Caitlin Johnstone via Medium.com

In a move that surprised exactly zero people, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has wasted no time scrambling to blame Iran for damage done to two sea vessels in the Gulf of Oman on Thursday, citing exactly zero evidence.

“This assessment is based on intelligence, the weapons used, the level of expertise needed to execute the operation, recent similar Iranian attacks on shipping, and the fact that no proxy group operating in the area has the resources and proficiency to act with such a high-degree of sophistication,” Pompeo told the press in a statement.

“The United States will defend its forces, interests, and stand with our partners and allies to safeguard global commerce and regional stability. And we call upon all nations threatened by Iran’s provocative acts to join us in that endeavor,” Pompeo concluded before hastily shambling off, taking exactly zero questions.

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

“It is the assessment of the U.S. government that Iran is responsible for today’s attacks in the Gulf of Oman….”@StateDept @SecPompeo pic.twitter.com/sTIB0p1kCE

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Here are seven reasons to be extremely skeptical of everything Pompeo said:

1. Pompeo is a known liar, especially when it comes to Iran.

Pompeo has a well-established history of circulating blatant lies about Iran and the behavior of the Iranian government, and he recently told an audienceat Texas A&M University that when he was leading the CIA, “We lied, we cheated, we stole. We had entire training courses.”

2. The US empire is known to use lies and false flags to start wars.

The US-centralized power alliance has an extensive and well-documented history of advancing preexisting military agendas using lies, false flags and psyops to make targeted governments appear to be the aggressors. This is such a well-established pattern that “Gulf of Tonkin” briefly trended on Twitter after the Gulf of Oman incident. Any number of government agencies could have been involved from any number of the nations in this alliance, including the US, the UK, the KSA, the UAE, or Israel.

3. John Bolton has openly endorsed lying to advance military agendas.

wrote an article about this last month because the Trump administration had already begun rapidly escalating against Iran in ways that happen to align perfectly with the longtime agendas of Trump’s psychopathic Iran hawk National Security Advisor. At that time people were so aware of the possibility that Bolton might involve himself in staging yet another Middle Eastern war based on lies that The Onion was already spoofing it.

On a December 2010 episode of Fox News’ Freedom Watch, Bolton and the show’s host Andrew Napolitano were debating about recent WikiLeaks publications, and naturally the subject of government secrecy came up.

“Now I want to make the case for secrecy in government when it comes to the conduct of national security affairs, and possibly for deception where that’s appropriate,” Bolton said. “You know Winston Churchill said during World War Two that in wartime truth is so important it should be surrounded by a bodyguard of lies.”

“Do you really believe that?” asked an incredulous Napolitano.

“Absolutely,” Bolton replied.

“You would lie in order to preserve the truth?”

“If I had to say something I knew was false to protect American national security, I would do it,” Bolton answered.

This would be the same John Bolton who has been paid exorbitant speaking fees by the pro-regime change MEK terror cult, promising the cult in a 2017 speech that they’d be celebrating regime change in Tehran together before 2019. This would also be the same John Bolton who once threatened to murder an OPCW official’s children if he didn’t stop getting in the way of his Iraq war agenda.

4. Using false flags to start a war with Iran is already an established idea in the DC swamp.

Back in 2012 at a forum for the Washington Institute Of Near East Policy think tank, the group’s Director of Research Patrick Clawson openly talked about the possibility of using a false flag to provoke a war with Iran, citing the various ways the US has done exactly that with its previous wars.

“I frankly think that crisis initiation is really tough, and it’s very hard for me to see how the United States president can get us to war with Iran,” Clawson began.

“Which leads me to conclude that if in fact compromise is not coming, that the traditional way that America gets to war is what would be best for US interests,” Clawson added. “Some people might think that Mr. Roosevelt wanted to get us into the war… you may recall we had to wait for Pearl Harbor. Some people might think that Mr. Wilson wanted to get us into World War One; you may recall we had to wait for the Lusitania episode. Some people might think that Mr. Johnson wanted to get us into Vietnam; you may recall we had to wait for the Gulf of Tonkin episode. We didn’t go to war with Spain until the USS Maine exploded. And may I point out that Mr. Lincoln did not feel that he could call out the Army until Fort Sumter was attacked, which is why he ordered the commander at Fort Sumter to do exactly that thing which the South Carolinians said would cause an attack.”

“So if, in fact, the Iranians aren’t going to compromise, it would be best if somebody else started the war,” Clawson continued. “One can combine other means of pressure with sanctions. I mentioned that explosion on August 17th. We could step up the pressure. I mean look people, Iranian submarines periodically go down. Some day, one of them might not come up. Who would know why? [Smattering of sociopathic laughter from the crowd.] We can do a variety of things, if we wish to increase the pressure (I’m not advocating that) but I’m just suggesting that this is not an either/or proposition — just sanctions have to succeed or other things. We are in the game of using covert means against the Iranians. We could get nastier at that.”

5. The US State Department has already been running psyops to manipulate the public Iran narrative.

Negar Mortazavi

@NegarMortazavi

Outrage on Capitol Hill over completely unacceptable US-funded scheme to shape Iran debate. The @IranDisinfo troll campaign targeted American citizens critical of Trump’s Iran policy and accused them of being loyal to Tehran regime.

Me and @borzou https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/us-iran-congress-meeting-money-trump-conflict-a8954191.html 

Outrage on Capitol Hill over ‘completely unacceptable’ US-funded sch…

United States officials say they are outraged by a government-funded troll campaign that has targeted American citizens critical of the administration’s hardline Iran policy and accused critics of

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State Department officials admitted to Congressional staff at a closed-door meeting on Monday that a $1.5 million troll farm had gone “beyond the scope of its mandate” by aggressively smearing American critics of the Trump administration’s Iran policy as propagandists for the Iranian government, according to a new report from The Independent. That “mandate” had reportedly consisted of “countering propaganda from Iran”, also known as conducting anti-Iran propaganda.

“Critics in Washington have gone further, saying that the programme resembled the type of troll farms used by autocratic regimes abroad,” says The Independent.

“One woman behind the harassment campaign, a longtime Iranian-American activist, has received hundreds of thousands of dollars from the State Department over the years to promote ‘freedom of expression and free access to information,’” the report reads.

6. The Gulf of Oman narrative makes no sense.

Kim Dotcom

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Here we go again. US Empire creating a pretext to go to war with Iran. It makes no sense that Iran would provoke a war with US Empire while Iran tries to salvage the nuclear deal with Europe. This situation looks manufactured as hell. The pro-war US media can’t wait to sell this.

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One of the ships damaged in the attacks was Japanese-owned, and the other was bound for Japan. This happened just as Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was in Tehran attempting to negotiate a de-escalation between the US and Iran with Trump’s blessing , and just after Iran had released a prisoneraccused of conducting espionage for the US in what many took to be a gesture of good faith.

Iran has been conducting itself with remarkable restraint in the face of relentless sanctions and provocations from the US and its allies; it wouldn’t make much sense for it to suddenly abandon that restraint with attacks on sea vessels, then rescue their crew, then deny perpetrating the attacks, during a time of diplomatic exchanges and while trying to preserve the nuclear dealwith Europe. If Tehran did perpetrate the attacks in order to send a strong message to the Americans, it would have been a very mixed message sent in a very weird way with very odd timing.

7. Even if Iran did perpetrate the attack, Pompeo would still be lying.

Pompeo’s statement uses the words “unprovoked” twice and “Iran’s provocative acts” once, explicitly claiming that the US empire was just minding its own business leaving Iran alone when it was attacked out of the blue by a violent aggressor. Sometimes the things put out by the US State Department feel like they’re conducting experiments on us, just to test the limits of our stupidity.

As noted in this article by Moon of Alabama and this discussion on the Ron Paul Liberty Report, the US has been provoking Iran with extremely aggressive and steadily tightening sanctions, which means that even if Tehran is behind the attacks, it would not be the aggressor and the attacks would most certainly not have been “unprovoked”. Economic sanctions are an act of war; if China were to do to America’s economy what America is doing to Iran’s, the US would be in a hot war with China immediately. It could technically be possible that Iran is pushing back on US aggressions and provocations, albeit in a strange and neoconservatively convenient fashion.

Either way, we have seen exactly zero evidence supporting Pompeo’s claims, so anyone you see hastening to blame Iran for the Gulf of Oman incident is either a war whore or a slobbering moron, or both. Knowing what we know about the US-centralized empire and its pre-existing regime change agenda against Iran, there is no reason to believe Pompeo and many reasons not to.

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77 thoughts on “Caitlin Johnstone, Seven Reasons to be Highly Skeptical of The Gulf of Oman Incident”

  1. Everyone seems to want to give the Trump the benefit of doubt. I just don’t know and do not get his affiliation with the Zionists. Is it because of his son-in-laws influence or is it something deeper that Bibi holds over his head? There’s no doubt he OWES the Rothschilds. Are they holding the leash? Many, if not most of his supporters are abandoning him because of this. At the least, he owes us an explanation
    AND he absolutely has to get rid of Bolton and Kushner.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geKGbK6sbQk

  2. BREAKING NEWS

    “President Trump reportedly gave the order to strike Iran Thursday night in response to its downing of a US drone that Washington claims was in international waters at the time. The US went so far as to maneuver planes and ships into position before the strike was called off.”

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/vk8fU7agDjU/

    Yes, indeed, THANK YOU MR PRESIDENT for acting in accord with the MORAL LAW of the LOGOS.
    Please give we the people another big opportunity to say a Big Thank You to you again
    by getting rid of Kushner, Bolton and Pompeo from any role whatsoever in your
    administration.
    God can use you to do His Sovereign Will, Mr. President, and by calling off this
    evil action by the USA, you have done the right thing.

    The president said that a strike on a nation and its people for the takedown of an unmanned drone is “not proportional.” Well said, and I might add, good Catholic moral reasoning.

    1. As a former Catholic, a former born again Pentecostal and an active practitioner of Cynicism, I still admire and respect your optimism (some might call it naivete’…but certainly not I). Make it so…especially in regard to those unholy three AND any affiliation the T may have with Zionism, Noahide Laws and Netanyahu ….the BIBI!……ummm…Be Be GONE!

  3. Here is a remarkably clear overhead image on the Gashti class patrol boat and its occupants that approached the Kokuka Courageous and removed a limpet mine from its hull. The U.S. says the boat was operated by the hard-line Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), not the Iranian Navy.

    Is the US Pentagon lying? Did the US do a FF? Did the IRGC attack the ships?

    Lots of questions.

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    1. Maybe that fast boat was made in the USA as a fake Iranian boat? And those guys in the boat are US Marines dressed as Iranian IRGC. I have no idea but for some reason I kinda doubt it. But who knows. Maybe someone can give us some evidence one way or the other. Curious minds want to know.

      1. You can bet the farm a deception of that would not be the first nor the last.
        Nothing and I mean nothing from the US, INC. can ever be trusted. They’re liars, deceivers, charlatans, thieves, actors and assassins….and that’s the nice stuff!

  4. Latest from Jim Stone:
    The Pentagon has produced “new evidence” in the form of photos and whatever else that PROVES Iran put limpet mines on the ships. But what about photoshop and deep fakes? HOW ABOUT THE CREW OF ONE OF THE SHIPS SAYING THEY SAW “FLYING OBJECTS” HIT THEIR SHIP? DO LIMPET MINES FLY? IF THEY DO NOT, THEN CLEARLY THE CREW OF THE SHIP IS FAR MORE CREDIBLE THAN ANYTHING THAT SCREAMS “LIMPET MINES” WHICH CAN BE FAKED WITH EASE ON DAMN NEAR ANY COMPUTER MORE ADVANCED THAN A TRS-80.

    Crew testimony is FAR MORE credible than ANY photo or ANY video, in a world where both can be faked with ease.

    OH, AND THIS: “I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole. It’s – it was like – we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment” – Mike Pompeo, Apr 22, 2019
    My response: If you call America an “experiment” you have no place anywhere in government. Thanks for telling us you are a liar, cheater, and thief – and proud of it.

    1. And this:

      Jewish whistleblower on Iran false flag dead
      I had heard about David Goldberg being a whistleblower on an Iran false flag, but did not pay attention. NOW THIS:
      This was posted to a no doubt temporary page. It seems credible.

      “I’m a friend of David Goldberg. I was asked to share what I know about his death and give everyone a better idea of whats going on. I’ve known him for nearly a decade, but I’m not going to get into the details of my relationship with him because I want to keep my identity private. I’m going to leave out some of our personal reactions and stick to the facts we know, suffice it to say, we’re all devastated by this news and it hit some of us pretty hard — especially considering David seemed afraid for his life in recent months, because of what he was posting on his You Tube channel. We all wish we had done more, but we’re not sure there was anything we could do, either.

      David passed in the morning on Saturday, June 8th, in his apartment. I got word of his passing from the neighbor who found him. David was found unconscious and not breathing, after the neighbor had stopped by for a planned visit and David didn’t answer. The neighbor had a key, opened it, and found David lying on the floor in the main living room area. I was told there was some foam coming from his mouth and his eyes were open when he was found. The neighbor called 911 right away. The neighbor was not trained in CPR but made some attempts to try to revive him.

      When the EMTs arrived, the neighbor said there was a group of cops and other law enforcement he couldn’t identify. He thought they were detectives. The neighbor was quickly ushered out, asked questions by the cops, and police tape was placed around the apartment. All the tape was removed within about a day and some friends and family members were allowed in to collect things.

      It was really hard to get word on David’s condition. He was taken to the hospital, but only family members were notified and they were not even in the state. So as friends we were trying to get information but still haven’t gotten much. All we know is he was unconscious and likely dead when the EMTs arrived, but we don’t know when he was pronounced dead, and there is still no official cause of death. We’ve asked, but we’ve gotten no information at all, as to whether there is a criminal investigation, or how the death is being treated. We’ve also placed some calls to David’s known family members, and none have returned the calls. We checked the local media reports, and there was nothing. We eventually placed calls to the local news channels letting them know what happened, but again nothing came of it.

      David kept me abreast of things over email, and he told me he had been given some documents he felt could, for certain, get him killed. The documents related to some internal White House memos in which a couple of New York rabbis were meeting with Trump frequently, and the memos talked about the nature of those meetings. I didn’t get full details, except that it seems the rabbis were going to deliver for Trump a reelection victory if he did things they were asking. I guess Trump was listening intently, because — well this is what David said to me — because the rabbis had a lot of power, in ways in which they could rig the elections if they needed to. The memos also talked about how Trump’s poll numbers were not very good and he could easily lose in 2020, and the White House knew this, and this was part of the reason why Trump was paying so much attention to these rabbis. I guess they just have a lot of control or something, and Trump needed them. David said the documents, if they ever got out, would be very bad for Trump, because there was no way to put a positive spin on them. He said the memos were pretty blunt, and seemed to have been written by a couple of staffers coordinating the meetings.

      There were also documents in David’s safe that we were able to recover after the cops left. They took a lot of David’s stuff without any explanation as to why, but they didn’t get the safe, which was a floor safe and it’s possible they didn’t even know it was there. In fact, we’re pretty certain they didn’t know it was there, because it is very well hidden.

      David was smart and put pretty much everything in that safe that was important. David had also given at least three friends access to his online accounts, and said if something happened to him, to be ready to take over.

      The rest of his stuff, which was paper, notes, his computers and phones had some information but nothing like what was in the safe, where he kept all of it. The friends removed everything from his safe, and have made copies of what they could and have those copies in safe places in case anything happens.

      There will be some more updates coming. We are talking on a video which will show the documents, and also we have retained a lawyer to go over how best we can present the information David left behind.”

      My comment: Foam from the mouth indicates nerve agent. No one would think of saying that. This seems legit, and the original source is getting trolled bad, saying Goldberg never even existed. But that’s a problem when I had heard of him before this (but did not comment on it) AND he did indeed have a Youtube channel and appears to have been a low level staffer.

      Helping all of this, obviously, is that within a short time after he was dead, while having indeed existed online long before his death, an obvious PATHETIC false flag happened. Also helping this is that his Youtube account survived (for a while at least) because he was bashing Trump.

  5. The bow has a distinct chevron pattern on the bow in a 2016 photo of Iranian boats [attached photo]. In the USA CENTCOM video a similar pattern can be seen on the boat.

    The type of boat shown in the photo has similar features to a boat that ­­­was displayed in a ceremony on March 2016 where Iranian Rear Admiral Ali Fadavi, the commander of IRGC Navy was present.​

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    1. Means nothing.
      If they could sink the Titanic’s sister ship and not the actual Titanic…WHY would I accept anything of this nature.
      Look for the truth in your heart and not the lies they present to your eyes.

          1. When ”Will” has lost an argument he changes the topic. He wants to now talk about the Titanic. What’s next?

            Milk does not come from cows….its made from_____________.

          2. That’s an example….of the whole world being ‘hornswaggled’ you non-thinking creature. Where were you educated…off a Cheerios box?
            Don’t bother responding…I am done with your nonsense.

    1. So, DON…if you can watch the above vid in its totality and still question the Gulf of Oman incident as a false flag, it’s very likely you are in the throes of DENIAL.

      1. From Benjamin Fulford:
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        2019-06-17
        Zionist meltdown as Oman tanker stunt fails to manipulate oil futures markets
        By Benjamin Fulford Weekly Reports 63 Comments

        The meltdown of the Zionist control grid is now public, as even the corporate mainstream propaganda media is reporting the attacks last week on tankers near Oman as “false flag.” The situation has reached the point that former U.S. colonies like Germany and Japan are openly and publicly defying the U.S. President and Secretary of State on this issue. This surreal turn of events is comparable to the fall of Communism and the Soviet Union.

        In this case, we are witnessing the fall of the U.S. corporate government and (possibly) the rebirth of the Republic of the United States of America. In fact, we may even be witnessing the fall from power of the secret family groupings hiding behind monotheism.

        The 13 bloodlines who have controlled monotheism are, in fact, negotiating a new system for running the planet, according to European royals and members of the White Dragon Society (WDS). If these negotiations succeed, it will be the biggest event in thousands of years of human history. If they fail, there will be chaos and bloodshed, especially among the elite, anti-bloodline Gnostic Illuminati, sources say.

        Even if this sounds exaggerated, events in the actual real world do show a fundamental change. Let’s start with the failure of the false flag attack of the coast of Oman. U.S. naval intelligence and CIA sources followed the money to see who benefits from this attack. The trail led to the Rothschild-owned Glencore commodities company in Switzerland, which had positioned itself to profit from a spike in oil futures prices immediately before this attack took place, the sources say. Unfortunately, the oil futures price spike turned out to be merely a dead cat bounce and the Rothschilds failed to profit as expected. That’s because the markets, and the world, have had enough of the Zionists crying Iranian wolf, they say.

        What’s interesting about this latest provocation is how even a former U.S. colony like Japan is no longer going along with the Zionist playbook. To quote from corporate news reports, “Even if it’s the United States that makes the assertion, we cannot simply say we believe it,” said a source close to Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. If having expertise sophisticated enough to conduct the attack could be a reason to conclude that the attacker was Iran, “That would apply to the United States and Israel as well,” said a source at the Foreign Ministry.
        https://japantoday.com/category/national/japan-demands-more-u.s.-proof-that-iran-attacked-tankers

        As far back as I can remember, this sort of public Japanese rebuke of a sitting U.S. administration has never happened even once since Japan lost World War II.

        The attack in Oman came as Abe was in Iran trying to get Iranian agreement for a new financial system, Japanese military intelligence sources say. The Iranians were supportive, but …

        1. The statement is very clear:
          So, DON…if you can watch the above vid in its totality and still question the Gulf of Oman incident AS A FALSE FLAG, it’s very likely you are in the throes of DENIAL.

      2. Pres. Trump says these are Iranian Guards in the white fast patrol boat along side the damaged ship. If they’re not Iranians, who are they?

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      1. Take THE EFFORT and watch the video. He presents various news sources …that is what REAL JOURNALISTS DO. YOU are too used to 15 second new ‘bytes’…GEEZ!

    1. Released by the Pentagon today….US Navy says these color pics show Iranians removing limpet mine from side of ship. Top two other pics show hole made by mine that did work. Other pics are available online. Google search.

      Color pictures were revealed after allies said they wanted more proof than grainy black and white surveillance pictures Pentagon put out last week
      U.S. military says pictures show an Iranian Revolutionary Guards armed fast patrol vessel alongside the M/T Kokuku Courageous removing an unexploded limpet mine after another one went off on the other side.
      ‘Iran is responsible for the attack based on video evidence and the resources and proficiency needed to quickly remove the unexploded limpet mine,’ Central Command said in a statement.
      Among the pictures is one showing what is said to be the remnants of the removed limpet mine and another one which shows what the military say is a handprint left by one of the Revolutionary Guards.

      It remains to be seen if these are genuine.

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    1. Its hard to believe that the Trump Administration would create a FF incident in an era when lots of people/nations are watching everything that happens.

      Maybe we’ll soon see which path leads to the facts.

  6. There are several possibilities in this case. One is that the Iranians or some other M.E. operatives placed two Limpet mines on the side of the ship at night. One exploded and one did not. The US Navy monitored some of the activity of the Iranians by using US Navy night-vision equipment w/video of their activities. That video has been seen on TV and Internet news.

    Another possibility is that President Trump and Mr. Pompeo are both lying about the incident and the whole event was a US planned and executed FF.

    There are of course several other possibilities.

    1. Well we can rule out that last possibility because neither Trump nor Pompeo has ever told a lie. Why start now?

      Let’s think about the first possibility.
      1. Would the Iranians do it? Maybe they would do it to make oil prices go up. But of course they know it might spark a US attack which they have stated they do not want. Why would they?

      2. Maybe Yemen would do it. But why would they?

      3. Maybe Saudi Arabia would to it to spike oil prices and get rid of come competition. This is a possibility. But then again, a war might impair shipment of their oil.

      4. Or maybe israel would do it. Why would they do it? In order to prompt the US to do their dirty work by attacking their archrival thereby removing another Arab threat to their ME hegemony. And it would remove support for Hezbollah in Lebannon which would mean Israel would finally be able to annex Lebannon and acquire water. And it would pave the way to perfect the Greater Israel plan. And it would probably help Netanyahu politically because he needs it right now. But beyond all that, nothing in life would make Netanyahu any happier.

      It is confusing.

        1. Of course it’s meant to be confusing. Have we ever seen one false flag that did not have conflicting reports in the first few days? That is THEIR MO. AND, it’s another sign that it a false flag. Conflicting reports from all sides…terrible videos or photographs in a world that has 4K…BUT, always some declaration from the top that THIS IS THE WAY IT WAS and we must have action….start a war or grab our guns.
          For Keericed sake, it’s a template in which all they do is fill in the blanks.
          Yet, some here think Trump could possibly not be in on it. Well, have you ever seen him try to expose any of the false flags done under his admin or even hint at the idea they may have been staged? Absolutely not because he is part of the THEATER!
          We’ve been fooled again!

      1. Did Iran in small boat attach a mine to the side of ship or not? Is the NAVY infrared video a fake? Does the video show them removing a mine that did not explode? Lots of questions.

        1. Don…This is as obvious a false flag as there ever has been. So, what I am asking is do you blame her for being a Trump hater. The man has totally turned against the vast majority of his ‘campaign’ promises and is more than apparently bowing to his Zionist masters….Jerusalem…the Golan Heights….I (we) will never abandon our closest ally, Israel (paraphrased)…
          Maybe I misunderstood the purpose of your remark.

          1. What possible logical motive would Iran have…one of the most peaceful nations on earth (having not invaded anyone for over 250 years), with talks going on with Japan at that very moment ; whereas Israel who rules the US, INC. via CONgress and Trump has all the motive in the world. And with Bolton and Pompeo leading the call for war and the great disappointer, Trump, going along, what else could possibly be expected.

            If Iran wanted to cause REAL DAMAGE, why put a hole in the hull ABOVE the water line??

            YOU know Israel rules this country. I’ve seen it in your comments.

            Read some of the comments here (more comments than I have ever seen on any recent ZH article and you’ll find all the proof you could ever need:

            https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-13/2-tankers-damaged-after-suspected-torpedo-attack-near-strait-hormuz-oil-soars

          2. And I think it’s very important to avoid using the word ‘proof’ in these situations. It means very little if nothing. There was proof of WMDs in Iraq. There was proof of gas attacks in Syria. There was proof Oswald killed Kennedy….There was proof MLK was killed by James Earl Ray…There was proof Sirhan killed RFK.There was proof 26 humans were killed in Sandy Hook. There was proof of the Boston bombing. On and on and on…
            All one can do is examine the situation, circumstance and motive and come to a conclusion based on logic and reasoning.

          3. I don’t believe that Israel ”rules” the US. Rogue elements within the US use Israel to do their dirty work…..one example is 911.
            Is Israel a dangerous nation? My answer is yes. All nations in the ME are a boiling pot of danger….none are to be trusted, especially Shia Iran.

            I have not seen or read any proof that the US attacked the two tankers. At this point IDK exactly what happened except for that nigh-time video of the small boat alongside a larger ship.
            Limpet mines are attached to the side of a ship above the waterline to cause damage but not sink it. According to reports, two were attached and one did not work and was therefore removed to hide evidence.

          4. The term ”logical motive” is meaningless when applied to actions of nations in the ME. Also, ”logic and reasoning” does not apply to ME fanatics

            There’s a lot of ”proof” around but it’s ignored by by people with contrary agendas.

          5. Don says:
            June 15, 2019 at 12:46 pm

            I don’t believe that Israel ”rules” the US.

            Don…..How do you account for THE FACT that all CONgresscritters have to sign a document of allegiance to Israel? Do you think that ‘pledge’ does not influence their legislation??

          6. I’ve heard about Congress members signing a document that they swear loyalty to Israel but I’ve never seen it.

          7. So do you believe it exists or do you believe it does not exist because you have never seen it?
            I know many things exist simply through witness, evidence and common sense…oxygen for one.
            Several members of CONgress have attested to it’s existence. Do you think they are lying? What purpose would that serve?

          8. I have been watching this vid in which Norman Finklestein is on the hot seat defending his book, “The Holocaust Industry” (doing a great job, I might add) where at this point, the narrator calls on a fellow named Jeff Halper (?) who makes an amazing distinction as to Israel and there use of the anti_Semitism ply….incidentally, Halper is a BDS supporter….

            https://youtu.be/8YFfQnwuVLo?t=1892

          9. Don says:
            June 15, 2019 at 12:46 pm

            I don’t believe that Israel ”rules” the US. Rogue elements within the US use Israel to do their dirty work…..one example is 911.

            Tell me what you think after reading this:

            2 hours ago

            TRUMP IS NOT PUTIN’S PUPPET

            If there is any doubt as to who really “rigged” the 2016 election, installed Donald Trump as our Reality TV Show President, and who his real handler is, an on-going cascade of revelations and exposes are making things very plain by now. While the Democratic Party, the Washington foreign policy and security establishments, the mainstream media and pop culture in general have fallen for the Israeli diversionary tactic that Trump is Russian president Putin’s puppet, the evidence suggests otherwise. The actual person who engineered his election and controls him (if anyone can indeed actually “control” Donald Trump), is Benjamin Netanyahu on behalf of top rabbis and the mobsters of the Zionist faction of the … hierarchy above them.

            Adam Entous in a New Yorker article entitled “Trump’s New World Order” (June 18, 2018) is alone such a damning indictment of just how strong the circumstantial evidence for this is:

            “American officials soon learned of the activity between Israel and the Trump team. Other governments took a Clinton victory as a foregone conclusion, but a former U.S. official told me, “The Israelis didn’t take that opinion at all. They were working [manipulating] the Trump people with great energy before anybody else [i.e., the Russians] was engaged with them.”

            A number of other events also underline this very clearly. The most prominent and obvious are Trump’s pulling the US out of the Iran deal, and the moving of the US embassy to Jerusalem. Both of these tectonic plate-shifting decisions are directly contrary to everything Russia has been trying to accomplish in stabilizing the Middle East and cleansing it of the Western-backed jihadists that threaten their country.

            On the other hand, no one has had these goals higher on his wish list than failed-state wizard Benjamin Netanyahu.[1] In point of fact, Israeli TV has recently caught him bragging about personally convincing Trump to nullify the Iran deal.

            More Examples …

            https://seriousguy.donclasen.com/trump-is-not-putins-puppet/

            👉Welcome David Schenker Another Zionist in charge of American foreign policy

            Those who think that the foreign policy of the United States should be the product of serious discussion embracing a variety of viewpoints to come to a conclusion that benefits the American people should perhaps take note of what has been going on in the President Donald Trump administration. The use of unrelenting pressure to include threats of military intervention rather than negotiation has been noted by many, but the media predictably has failed to discuss the implications of having a team in place making decisions relating to the volatile Middle East and beyond that consists overwhelmingly of Orthodox Jews and Christian Zionists.

            To recap, Trump’s A-team in the Middle East is headed by his Jewish son-in-law Jared Kushner who is being personally advised by a group of Orthodox Jews. David Friedman, the U.S. (sic) Ambassador to Israel is also an Orthodox Jew and a former bankruptcy lawyer with no diplomatic or foreign policy credentials. He is a passionate supporter and even a funder of the illegal Israeli settlements on the West Bank and on the Golan Heights. Friedman endlessly and ignorantly repeats Israeli government talking points and eventually succeeded in changing the language used in State Department communications, eliminating the word “occupied” when describing Israel’s control of the West Bank. His humanity does not extend beyond his Jewishness, defending the Israeli shooting of thousands of unarmed Gazan protesters and the bombing of schools, hospitals and cultural centers. How he represents the United States and its citizens who are not dual nationals must be considered a mystery….

            http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/welcome-david-schenker/

            👉Israel advocate Ravich named to senior intelligence post, planned US-Israel cyber project against BDS

            New deputy chair of the Intelligence Advisory Board, which helps shape U.S. intelligence policy, is Samantha Ravich – an Israel advocate who previously worked for AIPAC spinoff WINEP, was a senior advisor to pro-Israel FDD, senior advisor to the Chertoff Group…

            See video of her speech at Israel Bonds event, where she describes a cyber project that will combat BDS

            IAB chair is Stephen Feinberg, hedge fund billionaire and military contractor…

            The Forward reports: “President Trump chose as the deputy chairwoman of the intelligence advisory board a Jewish national security expert who is well known in the pro-Israel national security community https://israelpalestinenews.org/israel-advocate-ravich-named-to-senior-intelligence-post-planned-us-israel-cyber-project-against-bds/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=e11599a3-a95c-4f40-b9e5-6bbee3febfd5

            👉Treasury Sanctions Foreigners For Israel

            The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) was ordered to register as an Israeli foreign agent on November 21, 1962 when it was part of the American Zionist Council. AIPAC has never complied with the order, and the Department of Justice has never enforced it. AIPAC’s associated think tank, the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP) was spun off from AIPAC as a survival tactic during a 1980s FBI investigation into AIPAC over economic espionage that produced America’s worst-performing bilateral trade agreement. Incredibly, decades later both organizations appeared to want to get into law enforcement and were instrumental lobbying President George W. Bush for the 2004 launch of the Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence (OTFI) Treasury unit. … When Levey finally stepped down in 2011, the top job at TFI was transferred to David Cohen, who worked at the same Washington DC law firm as Levey, Miller, Cassidy, Larroca & Lewin LLP (which later merged into Baker Botts LLP). Cohen continued Levey’s practice of curtailing OTFI’s availability to any concerned public opposition. On September 12, 2012, Cohen refused to answer reporter questions about Israel’s possession of nuclear weapons, and whether sanctioning Iran, a signatory to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, over its internationally-inspected civilian nuclear program was an example of endemic double standards at OTFI. In 2015, Mondoweiss observed that the key requirement for Americans working in the top “counterterrorism” job at OTFI appeared to be being both Jewish and Zionist. Most Americans (70%) do not self-identify as Zionist. (Defined in the poll as any person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel.)

            Cohen was succeeded by longtime OTFI employee Adam Szubin, former counsel to Stuart Levey, who was appointed to lead OTFI during the Obama administration, but never confirmed by the Senate. Szubin also visited Israel frequently on the taxpayer dime and, like Levey and Cohen before him, kept WINEP and AIPAC lobbyists well-briefed on OTFI initiatives.

            Szubin served as interim under secretary from January 20, 2017 until February 13, 2017. In 2017 the already narrow hiring criteria of OTFI was even further restricted.

            According to the news and intelligence website DEBKAfile, OTFI’s current leader Sigal Pearl Mandelker, also a dedicated Zionist,either had or still has Israeli citizenship.(PDF) Mandelker was confirmed by the Senate on June 21, 2017. …

            https://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2018/08/29/treasury-sanctions-foreigners-for-israel/

          10. My apologies for all these postings, but when the proof of false flags just keeps coming, I feel obligated to post what I have found:
            👉53 Admitted False Flag Attacks

            https://www.globalresearch.ca/53-admitted-false-flag-attacks/5432931

            👉Israel’s Use of False Flags in Global Terrorism

            http://americanfreepress.net/web-exclusive-israels-use-of-false-flags-in-global-terrorism/?print=print

            👉History’s Dire Warning: Beware False-Flag Trigger for Long-Sought War with Iran

            Israel’s “false flag” attack on the U.S.S. Liberty in 1967 cost 34 American lives. Dick Cheney planned to disguise U.S. troops as Iranians to fire on American ships to start a war. With Bolton and Israel on the warpath, the risk of another similar act is higher than ever.

            https://www.mintpressnews.com/historys-dire-warning-beware-false-flag-trigger-for-long-sought-war-with-iran/258478/

            IUDAEA DELENDA EST.

          11. Don needs PROOF. He wants the truth, that’s why he voted for Obama. See, Don won’t be satisfied unless CNN reports the truth, and he has full confidence in them. He recognizes the friendly faces of the network talking heads and he won’t be satisfied until Maddow or F. Chuck Todd says “we are witnessing the truth as we speak”. Anything short of these truths and Don cries out, “conspiracy theorist”. Good for you, Don. Real good.

          12. ((Bahmi says:
            June 18, 2019 at 7:06 am

            Don needs PROOF. He wants the truth, that’s why he voted for Obama. See, Don won’t be satisfied unless CNN reports the truth, and he has full confidence in them.))

            Of course, we cannot say that Don relies on the box and the MSM for his information and validation. That would not be fair.
            We CAN say that certain minds are more subject to the influence of Alpha waves than others…………like the majority of the population.
            Personally, I do not watch the box, do not have a box and have no intention of EVER getting such! And I sure do not bother with the MSM on the WEB.

        2. The US, INC invaded and devastated Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq and Libya and may soon do the same to Iran….and you call the ME “fanatics”.
          .
          We are all entitled to our opinions…good luck finding ‘proof’ to support yours.

      1. Knowing the truth about the real Facebook story, I’d say Obama was trying to cut himself in to some fat profits from FB. Jacob Greenberg aka Mark Zuckerberg likely cut Obama a nice deal and now Obama is worth a few hundred million as we speak.

          1. That was an idiotic comic remark from comedian and poet Johnny Cochran. 1937-2005

            It allowed an obvious guilty man get away with MURDER of two people. Its called Jury Nullification.

          2. Don…Have you looked into the idea Simpson was covering up for his son?
            There’s something fairly substantial there…….worth a gander.

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