THE ASSASSINATION OF JFK: JOHNSON VS. DULLES

In her review of David Talbot’s new book, The Devil’s Chessboard  (“Checkmate on The Devils Chessboard”, Consortium News October 27, 2015), Lisa Pease provides a succinct summary of Talbot’s impressive work.  With one notable exception, she has nothing but praise for his seminal research. That exception relates to his reference to E. Howard Hunt’s “final confession” identifying LBJ as the top of the chain of command that brought about the death of JFK, which is not congruent with the conventional wisdom she and her fellow “researchers” have been so anxious to avoid.
Her review isolates that premise as follows:

While Talbot has the facts right in the broad strokes, if not all the small details, his focus was, in my opinion, a tad misplaced in spots. For example, he appears to believe E. Howard Hunt’s deathbed “confession,” which many in the research community do not.  

Hunt, a career intelligence officer who became infamous as a leader of Nixon’s Watergate burglary team, implicated President Lyndon B. Johnson in the plot to kill Kennedy, which has never made sense to me. If LBJ was so ruthless that he killed his way to the presidency, why did he decide not to run again in 1968? Historically, when people have killed their way to the throne, they do not voluntarily abdicate it.

But E. Howard Hunt was far from alone in fingering LBJ as “the pivotal player” or, as I prefer to cite him, “the mastermind”. Madeleine Duncan Brown, Billy Sol Estes, Barr McClellan, and no less than Jack Ruby were strongly of that opinion, where Ruby told reporters dogging him during his appearance before Earl Warren that the motives of the principals were very tangible and that they should be looking at “the man at the top”.

Indeed, as other scholars have discovered, Lyndon not only forced himself onto the ticket in Los Angeles in 1960 by threatening to destroy JFK using information provided to him by J. Edgar Hoover but he even sent his Chief Administrative Assistant, Cliff Carter, down to Dallas to make sure all the arrangements were in place for the assassination. And after the event, he took an active role in managing the cover up, insuring that DA Henry Wade speak no more about “a possible conspiracy” and even calling Charles Crenshaw, M.D., who was responsible for the treatment of the alleged assassin at Parkland Hospital, to ask for “a deathbed confession”. Lyndon Johnson was a “hands on” guy who left nothing to chance.

Ignoring this damning evidence, we have a concise statement from her about why the “research community” is resistant to the premise of LBJ’s direct involvement in the planning and execution of the death of John F. Kennedy:  “Such a concept is simply impossible because five years later, when he had a chance to run for re-election, he chose not to — Case Closed.” But that claim begs for much closer scrutiny.

That she and others have grounded their refusal to explore LBJ’s numerous ties to the “crime of the century” to such a tenuous point is clearly and demonstrably “absurd.”  His criminal record — attested to by the impeccable credentials of Texas Ranger (later U.S. Marshal) Clint Peoples — began decades before the assassination and continued, on increasingly higher levels throughout his administration.  Peoples, for example, would convince a Texas grand jury in 1984 that one of the deaths Johnson had commissioned (through his aides, Cliff Carter and Malcolm “Mac” Wallace) of Henry Marshall, an inspector for the Department of Agriculture, was a “homicide” rather than a “suicide”.

That a man who had been shot five times with a single-shot rifle, had carbon monoxide in his lungs and had been rendered unconscious by a blow to the head could have committed suicide was a complete absurdity from the beginning but was typical of justice in Texas at the time. People’s success, however, came only after LBJ and his aides, were deceased and could no longer be indicted. Unsurprisingly, this development was promptly extinguished by the mainstream media as soon as it was announced and has thereafter remained “untouchable” by the Fourth Estate.

In a four-year-old Salon article (“The Other Kennedy Conspiracy”, November 21, 2011), Ms. Pease declares that she “is an expert on the assassinations of the ’60s in general and the Robert Kennedy assassination in particular.”  The following excerpt from that article summarizes the status of her research into RFK’s murder:

Fact: The CIA was so concerned about Robert Kennedy in the last year of his life that it put spying on him on a par with spying on the Soviet Union, according to a report in the Washington Post after it obtained this data. 

Perhaps the CIA was also anxious about RFK because, as David Talbot (the founder and current CEO of Salon) recounted in his 2007 book, Brothers, Robert Kennedy harbored suspicions about the CIA’s possible complicity in his brother’s death. One of Robert’s first calls after JFK’s assassination was to the CIA to ask if the agency had killed his brother. If members of the CIA were involved in the death of JFK, could they afford to let Robert ascend to an office where he’d have the power but to do something about that? 

I’m well aware that extraordinary claims deserve extraordinary evidence. I have much more to support what I’ve said here, which I am laying out in book form. I hope only to have cracked your mind open, because Occam’s Razor fails us when the simplest explanation is the carefully planned cover story.

Occam’s Razor, moreover, only applies to alternative theories that explain the available evidence equally well. The book that she stated she was “laying out” has evidently not made much progress since, so until it is published we can only speculate about what she considers so “extraordinary.”  But, had she not been so zealous about protecting LBJ’s tainted legacy for at least a quarter-century, she might have connected a few more of his presidential treacheries into patterns that could possibly explain why Johnson decided to give up on being re-elected.  

It had much to do with the precarious position that he had placed himself in — after having won the landslide victory in ’64, how he had been swallowed by his own hubris in creating the Viet Nam quagmire — with his record fall in the polls.  By early 1968, the Tet Offensive shattered the public’s confidence in his handling of the war, Eugene McCarthy had nearly trounced him in the New Hampshire primary, and then Robert Kennedy entered the race, which caused his chances of being reelected to be very much in jeopardy.  

Johnson knew his ego could never deal with defeat, even in the early primaries, and decided that he ought to quit the race while he still could.  But an even greater reason may have existed that should not be summarily discarded.  If the provenance of the order to “take out” RFK came not just from the highest echelons of the FBI or CIA but to the person who had control over those agencies, it is conceivable that by March 31, 1968, he had already given Helms and Hoover (et. al.) the order to eliminate any possibility that Bobby Kennedy might one day become president.  
It is clear that Sirhan Sirhan did not shoot the fatal shot (one of four fired from behind); and there is mounting evidence of a high-level conspiracy involving the CIA, the FBI and the LAPD.  It follows that clear lines might be traced back to LBJ’s possible instigation of RFK’s assassination.  If that could be proven, another possible explanation for Johnson’s decision to quit the race — merely two weeks after Bobby’s entry  — would become that “Occam’s Razor” that she cites:  by taking himself out of the race he could ensure that almost no one would seriously regard him as the culprit.
There have been many other researchers who have also probably been disappointed that Mr. Talbot even mentioned E. Howard Hunt’s “confessions” — which left open the question of LBJ’s involvement in JFK’s assassination — instead of making a stronger case of Allen Dulles’ key role in the 1963 coup de etat.  Perhaps his work will help to put the onus where it should more properly be placed — at LBJ’s door.  My book, LBJ: From Mastermind to The Colossus, explains in greater depth the reasons the “driving force” behind the assassination could not have been Allen Dulles, where that role could only have been fulfilled by Lyndon Johnson.

Phillip F. Nelson is the author of LBJ: The Mastermind of the JFK Assassination (Skyhorse, 2010; 2011; 2013) and LBJ: From Mastermind to The Colossus (Skyhorse, 2014)
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108 thoughts on “THE ASSASSINATION OF JFK: JOHNSON VS. DULLES”

  1. A "9/11 Truther" who disrupted a press conference after the Super Bowl in New Jersey confronted the sister of a teacher killed in the mass shooting at a Connecticut school during a charity event held in her honor, reports say.

    Matthew Mills, 32, of Brooklyn, N.Y. was charged with second-degree breach of peace Saturday after approaching Jillian Soto and telling her the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. never took place, CtPost.com reported.

    Mills was also arrested following Super Bowl XLVIII at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford in 2014. Mills burst on to the podium during a post-game press conference, grabbing a microphone from a player and shouting, "Investigate 9/11! 9/11 was perpetrated by people in our own government!"

    At Saturday's Vicky Soto 5K Race in Stratford, Conn., Mills' alleged antics brought Soto and another sibling to tears. He shoved a photo of the Soto family in Jillian Soto's face and loudly told her that her sister never existed, cops told the Connecticut Post.

    Vicky Soto is credited with helping some members of her first-grade class escape the shooting that left 20 students and six adult staff members dead.

    Saturday's event helped raise money for scholarships in Soto's name.

    Mills defended his actions in an interview with NYDailyNews.com, saying he donated money to run in the race and "politely" asked Jillian Soto a question about a picture he said might have been altered.

    Mills posted a $10,000 bond and is due next week in Bridgeport Superior Court.

    http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2015/11/truther_confronts_sister_of_sandy_hook_shooting_victim_report_says.html

  2. Considering Captain Bush’s affiliation with the nation’s cyber security network, it’s likely some will speculate that his involvement with Insanemedia could be on behalf of the U.S. government, either to gauge interest in conspiracy theories like Sandy Hook or to identify and track the activities of potential so-called “domestic terrorists” by collecting the IP addresses of those who visit the website.

    https://sandyhookstalkers.wordpress.com/

  3. We Know There Was Consp., Including LBJ, But What To Do?

    I don't think many people really doubt there was gross conspiracy, much like Fetzer indicates, along w. the N.O. D.A., Garrison. Question is WHAT will we do now? For those master-minds and their inheritors went on to do 9/11. Thus people must awaken to the great satanic conspiracy led by topmost, foremost satanists. People must re-institute states rights, nullification, secession, commodity-based money, etc.

  4. Well, but kikes LIE, right? Ho ho ho ho

    If u were REALLY Christian, then WHY would u defend satanic monsters like Jew filth, eh? Ho ho ho ho

    Sorry kike, but all the inductive evidence indicates u're kike through and through–couldn't be anything else, ho ho ho ho ho–such is science and induction, Jew, sorry, ho ho ho ho ho

  5. Ho ho ho–listen/read: the kike pretends science is like some MYSTIC cult or process, ho ho ho hoo ho.

    Kike: Newsflash, sucker–science isn't really that difficult–except for u kikes, eh?–ho ho ho ho–it's mystic for u kike liars who worship lies, right? ho ho ho ho

    We can "know" well as it's possible, kike–for u have to dis-prove the inductive conclusion, which u fail to doing, sucker–so, u see, we gain more certainty as the evidence adds up, get it? Ho o ho ho ho

  6. It truly doesn't get more self-importantly-delusional than your brain-scrambled tripe, old queen. I have wonderfully enjoyed rattling your breath-takingly unreasoned diatribes this evening. What a sad little prick you are, seeing jews in everything. And now, with these sentences, you are alone on these boards in your delusions. So long, Asslickian. I'm Southern Baptist-raised, you unsaveable cunt.

  7. Spoken like true kike that u are, eh? Ho o ho ho ho

    I'm "pathetic," but u have to spend such time to repeating it over and over and over–for who's benefit, kike? Ho o ho ho

    Life isn't pathetic?–so what?–don't u realize that's typical kike pt. of view?

    And u're NOT NOT NOT Christian, are u, kike, eh? Ho ho ho ho

  8. LOL! You DARE call yourself a scientist? Well, now you're up for both 'anti-semite of the year' and 'most laughable dumbphuque of the year' as well. Congrats, old slut! Too bad you'll never know if I'm a jew or notm huh? Your powers of induction are non-existant and delusional too. A double play!

  9. Yes, u're a Jew who's well-paid to "troll" the I-net, defending kikes furiously and intensively, but NEVER admitting to such purpose–attacking the real Christian soldiers and truthful analysts, scientists, and patriots.

    "[N]ow shrunken scrotum"?–ho ho ho ho–good one, kikey, ho ho ho ho–u're really clever and "intelligent," like we know u kikes are, ho ho ho ho

    If I were really "irrelevant" then why are u soooo desperately attacking the messenger, defending kikes? Ho oh ho ho ho

    NEWSFLASH: kike, remember I'm one smoking-out, exposing Jew filth like u, don't forget–I DON'T NEED "ALL NIGHT," Jew scum, ho ho hoo ho–I could quit anytime now, but I must admit, I'm having fun too, ho o ho ho ho ho–can't u tell? Ho ho ho ho ho

  10. Life isn't pathetic, old slut…YOU, specifically, are pathetic. Don't you have a blowjob to give to the Great Pumpkin tonight, Mr. Sad Little Christian Warrior? Bahahaha! And you NEVER get paid for it, do you, old queen…

  11. Bahaha! You wouldn't know a jew if one kicked you in your now-shrunken scrotum, Mr. Irrelevance. You just want something, ANYTHING, to spew your anger at your insignificant life towards, and if it wasn't jews, it would be Lithuanians, or Polacks, or Irishmen. You're pathetically imbalanced and we know YOU know it, but are apparently too impotent to help yourself. Spew on, old relevance-hunting leech! I have all night.

  12. Well, u're either satanic filth (Jew), or one must wonder WHY u defend kikes like u do, right? ho ho ho ho ho

    "Good insult"?–u're kike, right?–what more needs be said, eh? Ho ho ho ho ho

    "[O]nly guess"?–well, see, scientists make use of inductive logic, see–and then we look for dis-confirming evidence, which such disconfirmation is sadly lacking in ur case, eh Jew? Ho ho ho ho ho ho

  13. Typical Jewwy psychobabble, ho ho ho ho

    But kike, remember our Christian, Western culture understands the TRAGEDY of human life–of course life is "pathetic," kike scum, ho hoo ho ho ho–we have a culture, whereas u Jew filth have only lies, eh? Ho ho ho ho oho

    And u don't care if u're thought of as kike? Ho ho ho ho–after all, if it thinks, acts, talks, walks like one–then there's inductive logic, right? Ho ho ho ho ho

    And now we see what u're doing here on Fetzer's blog, eh kike? Ho ho ho ho–keeping the comments page "kosher," eh? Ho ho ho ho

    My being "self-deluded old queen" REALLY BOTHERS Jew like u, eh kike? Ho ho ho ho oho

  14. Waddya know, old shriveled ballsack is running out of impotent semen. Can't even get up a good insult anymore, let alone bugger his family dog as he used to in better days. Not even a good try, old cunt. Am I a jew, old wrinled ballsack? Am I a kike? You can only guess, and like all of your assumptions about reality, whatever you come up with will be obviously, laughably irrelevant.
    Ho phuquing ho.

  15. Bahahaha! I slam your sorry faggot ass because you're a leech trying to pretend he has a life while adding nothing of value to anyone anywhere. You clearly know how pathetic your life is, and my advice is for you to end it. Think of me as a jew, a kike, a martian for all I care. The entire point being you are being howled at with laughter by anyone with a working brain, you self-deluded old queen.

  16. Ho ho ho ho–Jew, don't look now, sucker, but I've effectively provoked u to definitively exposing urself as kike, defender of kikes–that's all u are, buddy, for all the world to see here, soooo definitively, ho ho ho oh ho ho ho

  17. Did you just leak even more of your useless drivel onto the internet, you ineffective old jewbaiter? Or are those just flyspecks of no importance that you hope someone will mistake for meaning. No danger there, your opinions are those of a leech, and you know it as well as the rest of us here. Sad old piece of shit…

  18. It "pleases" me too, kike–TO EXPOSING U Jew filth and ur typical, usual tactics, as I've pt'd out, ho ho o ho

    If it was merely "manure," u wouldn't sweat it, would u, Jew?–u sweat and work so desperately, so intensively BECAUSE u're typical kike liar, desperately working for ur kike purposes, right?

  19. Well, we can know w. all certainty that's possible for humans, right?–u're a kike–what else could u be? Ho ho ho ho

    "[O]ld shriveled ballsack"?–ho ho ho ho ho–who talks like this but u kikes, eh? Hoh o ho oh ho ho

    So aren't u Jews and kikes the very LEADERS of the large satanic conspiracy?–tell us. Aren't u the foremost SUBJECTIVISTS?–tell us, Jew filth, ho ho ho oho

  20. You'll never know, will you, you old shriveled ballsack? We can see the uncertainty ripping your brain apart. All you can think about are jews…kikes…and cumming on your keyboard. Not much left up there, huh Asslickian? After even that's gone, you'll probably die in your bed alone. Shouldn't be long now, yeah?

  21. Well, good honest Christians are surely somewhat interested in my smoking-out kike filth like u, trying all ur kike tactics, (a) demanding censorship, (b) repeated invective, (c) including the usual kike referring to genitalia, masturbation, etc., (d) cheap "psycho-analysis," ho ho ho ho ho—what more needs be said? Ho o ho ho ho

  22. Yet MORE inductive evidence that u're kike: (a) ur persistent, obsessive lying, (b) to effect "no one gives a rat's ass"–U DO, SUCKER, and that's why u've spent HOURS here and now slinging ur pathetic and ineffectual invective at the brave and honest Christian soldier, begging Fetzer to censorship of that hero who exposes u kike filth, leaders of the satanic conspiracy against humanity, reality, reason and God, ho ho hoo ho ho.

  23. You really want to pretend anyone gives a shit what you think, old queen? Ahahahaha! Sad little man. Sees kikes behind every tree. Will likely rest in an unmarked grave because no one will care what happens to him, and deservedly so…

  24. You're still droning on about your jew obsession, you ineffective 'anti-semite'? One of them must have kicked the shit out of you at some point, is that it? NO ONE GIVES A RAT'S ASS. in fact, it's kind of funny, since you serve no other useful purpose than as a target for our scorn. Get used to being ignored. Change your name to 'old irrelevant cunt'.

  25. Yes, indeed–YET ANOTHER thing about u kikes is u're absolutely obsessed w. masturbation and genitalia, aren't u? Ho ho ho ho oho–that, along w. ur cheap and idiot "psycho-analysis," ho ho ho oho

    And we see now, evermore, u're just out to defending kikes–that's it, that's all, ho ho ho ho

    U "protesteth too much," kike moron, ho ho ho ho

  26. You'll never know, old leeching cunt, will you? You and your hilariously bad 'inductive' logic…if the Pope or Pat Roberts bit you on the ass you'd say they were jews, so eaten up by your own delusional self-importance are you, old phuque. Put your dick back in your mouth and go back to sleep.

  27. What? Asslickian thinks anyone is reading his immature tripe? Ahahahaha! Don't you have a farm animal to molest, you unsubstantial old jerkoff? After all, it's Halloween. Go do a pumpkin while you're at it 'kike-basher'. Pathetic.

  28. Why wouldn't we know if u were kike?–isn't there INDUCTIVE logic?–and doesn't that have serious conclusions for puke like u? Hoh o ho ho

    "We," again?–well, I don't care about u kikes or those sympathetic thereto–I intend to deal w. u in permanent fashion, don't doubt, ho ho ho ho ho

    And if these really were mere chicken-scratches, ho ho ho–then why/how would puke like u be soooo animated and moved to reacting as u've done now for HOURS AND HOURS here, desperately pleading to Fetzer for censorship–on grounds u're a suck-up and should be tolerated, but those who disagree should be suppressed? Ho ho ho ho ho

  29. "Nothing to type"?–but I've offered actual arguments against significant parts of Fetzer's work.

    Now here we see u want to discredit my sterling work by means of mere invective, pretending u don't have to address any actual arguments or details.

    Then, we see u resort to typical kike psycho-analysis, eh? Ho ho ho ho ho

    And this we see is ur actual motive, right?–u're a Jew, right? Tell a candid world, sucker–that's all that's working here–the typical kike trying to smear a brave and honest Christian soldier who decries Jew-led satanism–that's what's going on, eh? Hoh o ho ho

  30. Did you just leak something else out of your ass and smear it on your keyboard again, Asslickian? Nothing you write makes sense, old phuque. Not that we expect anything coherent from you, pathetic jew-baiting old queen.

  31. If I am a jew, YOU'LL never know, you deluded, self-important old queen. You're just a leech, which is lower than any jew or zionist I can bring to mind. How pathetic you are, do you think we don't see it? Maybe all your typed chickenscratches are really a plea for help…if so, go hang yourself. No one cares.

  32. Well, but how would u know, stupid strumpet of a kike? Ho ho ho ho

    For I've actually criticized Fetzer's work in some detail, pt-ing out, for example, how he leaves-out the element of central banking, then Jew satanism/subjectivism.

    And to say Fetzer's work "defends itself" is inadequate CONCLUSION which needs premises, given the detailed argumentation I've applied against that thesis, sucker.

    So like typical Jew, u want to prejudice my conclusions, without actually addressing any premises or details of any arguments. By golly, but u're clever kike, demanding censorship, etc., typical kike tactics and strategy. Great work, Jew–keep it up; Fetzer might actually be impressed w. ur persistence if nothing else, ho ho ho hoh o

  33. How does it feel, to have so much of nothing to type and have so many people on the internet laugh at your mental instability, old cunt? Waking up every day with a heart full of venom poisoning you day by day, as you reveal how litt;le about the world you are able to comprehend, asslickian? So utterly devoid of personal value that you are reduced to piggybacking your vileness on the backs of ACTUAL scholars whose level you will never even comprehend, as you screech out your impotent anger at the world, substituting the entire jewish race, or whatever target leaks from your brain to your fingers, for whatever phuqued you up so badly in the first place? Get lost, old whore.

  34. Ok, so now we get closer and closer to the actual thing that's working here–U'RE A JEW, am I right?–either that, or u insist upon defense of kikes, right?–so why haven't u said so in first place, u stinking piece-of-shit filth?

    And u sure seem to come-off as "strumpet" suck-up for Fetzer, right?–so if shoe fits, u know, as saying goes, right? Ho ho ho ho

  35. I don't NEED any more than that, you sun-fried shit-covered fish-belly-white excuse for an anti-semite.
    And I see you are still gender-confused, since the term strumpet STILL refers to a woman, asshat. You can't even get THAT much right, you shriveled-up old prick.

  36. Ho ho ho ho–the poooower strumpet–running out of "criticism," eh? ho ho ho ho

    But still–SOMETHING has a hold on u, strumpet–tell us what it really is, u pathetic prostitute, ho ho ho ho

    It's touching u defend Fetzer as u do, but is there something else at play here?–u want to defend kikes too, is that it? Ho ho ho ho Poooor strumpet, ho ho ho ho

  37. Still floundering at your cum-covered keyboard, you old masturbator? Take a little time and lick it off so your fingers quit sticking to the keys. Nothing you type couldn't have been written by a retarded monkey or a cat walking on the letters.

  38. Your so-called "conclusions" are simply the place where your tiny little one-celled brain got tired of thinking, Asslickian. The rest of us suffer from no such deficiency. Go phuque yourself, you old pathetic fart.

  39. Well what, strumpet, then are u even talking about?–u merely complain that some makes an entry, and that's what bothers u so much, eh?–u want to make sure that everyone else sucks-up to Fetzer like a strumpet like u, eh? Ho ho ho ho ho

  40. Ho ho ho ho–but u see, strumpet, that's NOT an "observation," u poor scum–it's a CONCLUSION, which is supposedly based upon observation, u poor, ignorant scummy strumpet, ho ho ho ho ho.

    Ho ho ho–"worthless drool"?–ho ho oho–so, do mean my observations are false or wrong, or something–inaccurate, perhaps? Ho ho ho–u can't say, can u?–why's that, sucker? Ho ho ho ho

    So we see now exactly what u actually know about any "inquiry," don't we?–u brainless, ignorant puke, ho ho oho.

  41. The ONLY observation I need to make regarding YOU, PERSONALLY, is that it's obvious that you're only here to disrupt ACTUAL inquiry by inserting your worthless drool into a conversation that you desperately wish you were part of but will never be. Go phuque yourself, baboon, if you're not already so engaged.

  42. But u're "activist strumpet," right?–and so now, what's this?–do u object to criticism of kikes?–so u defend kikes, eh?–well now, that's a clue indeed, ho ho ho ho

    And don't tell me u're not female, sucker–u don't fool me, ho ho ho ho ho

    "Putting [me] in place"?–ho oho ho ho–u're mere suck-up for Fetzer, right?–"activist strumpet," ho ho ho ho

  43. Anguish? Bahahahaha! Hardly, I enjoy putting you in your place, you pretentious piece of shit. And by the way, Mr. Asshat, 'strumpet' in general refers to the female of the human species. You probably don't realize this, as your species is as yet undetermined. But you DO have the odor of Bulls Ass, all right. So that's a clue, you useless jew-baiting leech.

  44. "Meds"?–I don't do meds, scum–u're the one who does, right? Ho o ho ho ho

    Tell us, seriously: WHAT observations do u have?–NONE, zero, nada. U just suck-up to Fetzer and on that suck-up, strumpet's basis hope to persuade, right?–that's all u got, ho ho ho ho

  45. But what, strumpet, do u have to "offer"?–stupid ass, ho ho ho ho. Tell us–for example, what do u consider "truth" to be, eh? Ho ho ho ho–we already know–u have NOTHING to say, sucker. U just a suck-up for Fetzer, while I present serious, genuine, demonstrable criticism. But u think u're more persuasive as u're more suck-up. So we'll see if Fetzer succumbs to ur strumpet's blandishments, eh? Ho ho ho ho ho

  46. Strumpet Never-Ending For Anguish, Exhortations, Ho Ho Ho

    Well strumpet: I may be "meaningless gnat," as u indicate, but u sure go through lots of emotional anguish over it all, we see, and, in ur pathetic manner, go to some distinct and genuine trouble to pouring forth ur dis-approval, eh? Ho ho oh ho ho ho.

    After all, u're utterly incapable of making any arguments like the frustrated strumpet u obviously are, but u want folks to know u still care, eh? Ho ho ho ho I'm sure Fetzer is impressed by ur vehement advocacy and exhortations, eh? Ho ho ho ho ho

  47. Thorough, Most Rational Understanding Needed For Survival Of Humanity

    Unknown: ur problem is u only half-understand in ur half-baked way what really goes on, what rules, what works, what MUST happen in accord w. what's actually in control.

    And what RULES (since at least 1913) is that criminal enterprise known as central-banking (see below citations). LBJ and Nixon are mere pawns and bag-men–they don't "agree" to anything, but simply do as they're told as afore-mentioned CFR et al. (see TheNewAmerican.com for expo on CFR) direct them in a kind of satanic "group-think," so far sooo successful in its infernal manner, given the circumstances of a formerly successful culture now corrupt and decadent.

    Criminals most often rule in history, as they're so willing to take initiative in violence, and even when they don't they're simply getting ready to take-over, for our poor stupid people, now so hubris-affected, cannot grasp the substance and meaning of such abstract concept as MONEY–which must be commodity-based, hence gold/silver being best (see RealityZone.com and Mises.org for expo on money, central-banking).

    And the poor, stupid, hubristic and over-populated people are persuaded STILL that such criminal enterprise has brought them "prosperity" even as they're steadily destroyed by POISON GMO foods and additives, poisoned water w. chlorine and fluoride, toxic vaccines, and poisoned atmosphere ("chem-trails") and deathly electronic and micro-wave effects, ho ho ho.

    U can't seem to figure-out Nixon couldn't have been "pt.-man" except only in certain ways for political/propaganda purposes, and u give no reasoning or citations to back ur half-baked claim.

    Our culture/society is thus FILLED to over-flowing w. half-baked people like u who think u know anything, and that's the very problem, for the criminals in charge now are DESPERATE and have turned to most radical, drastic measures to combat and fight for their continued place at top of society, ever degenerating.

    Thus society is still in horrific CRISIS, definitive currency and economic -collapse on-going, morons, fools, and scum, still over-populated, continuing to follow lead of SATANISTS and Jews, such as Fetzer very little help in large scheme, even though he clings to validity of sense-perception as basis of rational epistemology, too little and too late.

    Unfortunately, it really looks like there needs be large die-off/kill-off of inferiors and weaklings, suckers and fools, who have supported the criminal regime which continues to cling successfully to power, led by Jews and satanists.

  48. Must be hard to type with one hand on your shriveled 'manhood', you masturbatory old wreck. But I heqar it's your favorite hobby. Tie a condom around your head and make sure it covers your breathing apparatus, you meaningless gnat.

  49. Well davy-dave, problem for u is leg-to-standing-upon, eh? Ho ho ho ho. "Disruption"?–of WHAT?–I've carefully followed ur entries, and brace urself, buddy, but u say very, very little that's of any serious substance, ho ho ho ho ho–it's the truth, Davey-dave, hard as it may be to face, ho ho ho ho

  50. I know that, Dave, and I only do it because it wastes HIS time because he gets all flustered and stops making mile-long nonsense posts for a while. And also because these trolls have become insufferable and my patience with them is now zero level.

  51. Dr. Fetzer, do you have a means to permanently ban locusts like 'apsterian' or 'Emmanuel Goldbrick' from the board? Why should these trolls ever be tolerated when their only purpose is to distract and slow the movement of actual truth? Truly tedious. Please take him/her/it down…

  52. Apsterian is nothing but another self-deluded cunt who leeches off the hard work and perception of actual scholars so he can pretend he has some sort of life. He deluded himself that anyone ever actually reads his pathetic bloviations. I have ZERO inclination to give him ANY honey. Get lost, asslickian.

  53. What about if some deal had been cut between LBJ and Nixon that Johnson would agree, in secret, not to run in 1968. Also maybe Johnson figured he would lose to Eugene McCarthy or RFK? Nixon was the point man in the White House on Cuba as Ike's VP :-).

  54. Dipshit: as I explained, it's ok for u to say there's no evidence for u–get it, u ignorant scum? But u have no evidence for conclusion that there's no God–if u can't figure that out, it ain't my fault, u utter complete, brainless moron.

    "Grow up"?–ho ho ho–look who's talking, a total ignorant moron who can't figure-out u can't prove a universal negative, stupid punk. Grow-up?–u need to take ur own advice, suck-hole puke, ho ho ho ho

  55. http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa326/Jefffolkman/FetzertheClownHome_zps8b3087ec.jpg

    Dr. Fetzer is a seasoned entertainer who has kept us laughing for years. His best attributes are diversion and group-think.

    As a 74 year old clown, Dr. Fetzer is loved and respected by those in the same profession. Maybe Dr. Fetzer should take his wife, Janice, on a Sunday drive to visit The International Clown Hall of Fame and Research Center in Baraboo, WI which is only an hour drive from their home in Oregon, WI.

    http://www.theclownmuseum.com/

    Here are the directions but call ahead to make an appointment:

    Get on US-14 W in Fitchburg from E Richards Rd and Co Hwy Mm N 5 min (2.1 mi)
    Take US-12 W to South Blvd in Baraboo 53 min (48.9 mi)
    Continue on South Blvd. Drive to 4th St

  56. 'Grow up there is no G O D.'
    G O D= Gates of Death. Looking backwards upon while projecting image forward. (Generally regarded as 'satan'.)
    Creator- Even if this is a result of star dust it is a result. Hence a Creator. 'Big Bang' double entedre – sex magick bullshit.

  57. Jew-Spew: TYPICAL Gov. "Scientist," Ho Ho Ho

    Ho ho ho–well, notice I "engage" him, ho ho ho–and in most appropriate manner, too, I'd say.

    Jew-spew says he's "neuroscientist (actual scientist)," ho ho ho ho; that reminds me when I was student work-study employee and and assigned to watch the parking-lots–I always told people I was connected w. "security," ho ho ho ho ho. Such is this Jewwy-spew moron's connection w. science, one may be assured.

    And what really is "science"?–it's production of "knowledge" that's necessarily true, according to Aristotle, the very father of science. Thus a scientist essentially does 2 things: (a) observation, and then (b) induction, a fancy word for generalization. After the generalization is made, more observation is employed, as in experimentation, to sharpen the accuracy of the inductions.

    So a good scientist is nothing if not observant–for which we see this moron, Jew-spew, is utter failure. And we KNOW he doesn't understand simplest logic regarding above comment at Oct 30, 6:42 am, insisting there's no God, etc. Then there are all the simple observations Jew-spew ignores, as he's demonstrated now over several blogs and commentaries.

    So what Jew-spew really is is just the typical cliche'-spouting kike, as we see, who SELECTIVELY observes and ignores facts of reality, and in place of real sense or skill for simplest, basic logic, merely spouts the usual idiot lies and platitudes that we always get fm Jew scum.

    Jew-spew better hope he's saved his tax-feeders' wages as it's all coming to a screeching halt very soon, ho ho ho ho–US Dollar collapsing as we speak, by golly.

  58. Doubtful. You write without panache or class. Rather obnoxious also. I doubt a doctor of neuroscience would be making petulant comments about mom's basement or getting laid. I think you might want to look in the mirror when most of your comments have been off-topic and inappropriate. You're either a gov op or a coward or both. No one engages you here because you exposed yourself as a low grade op and you are worried about the lack of mental stability of of others. You put the cart in front of the horse. Just go away or come back when you have established some class and integrity to actually discuss with civility.

  59. "He's more accomplished than you."
    I'm a cognitive neuroscientist (i.e., actual scientist) at a major university. No, I don't care if you believe me. Yes, I will remain anonymous because I do not trust the mental stability of most people here.

  60. See, kike: it's ok if u want to say u don't have enough evidence to conclude, but it's not justified in reason for u to say there's enough for conclusion there is no God, dumbass. U can't prove a universal negative, dumbass. I thought u Jews were "smart"?–what happened?

  61. Well, kike: I doubt people are willing to entertain ur stupid Jewwy refusal to grasp reality. U pretend u know everything, then want to ask stupid questions and insist everyone must answer up, ho ho ho hooo. Can't u figure-out people hate kikes?

  62. Don't Doubt Sinful Nature Of Humanity, Criminal Nature Of Politicians Like LBJ

    Indeed, humans are sinners and life is war as Homer, Darwin, and all the great philosophers have taught us. Thus original American founders understood the notion of checks and balances as best effort by which the various interests might negate one another. St. Augustine reminds us about nature of gov.–kingdoms–they're a bunch of thieves and murderers, "criminals."

    And this review itself, by Nelson, overlooks the criminal enterprise which has ruled Jew S A since at least 1913, central-banking legalized COUNTERFEITING, US Federal Reserve Bank–see RealityZone.com and Mises.org for expo.

    LBJ himself was mere pawn of these "banker" criminals, as were the presidents before him, esp. FDR, this criminal cabal working through the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR–see TheNewAmerican.com for expo) and lately the Trilateral commission and "Bilderberg."

    So JFK assassination can well and best be analyzed as ultimately overseen by CFR powers, LBJ the quarterback, pulling all the operational strings and seeing to the cover-up. Don't forget LBJ was Jew (see http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message203477/pg1?disclaimer=1), well-connected w. zionist and Jew criminal networks, hence the Jews-media. Israel rec'd great increases in US tax-payers' largesse w. help of LBJ.

  63. I was 25 when Johnson decided not to run and hardly surprised as he seemed by then a broken man. Of course hidden away in the subconscious of most persons is the reluctance to view a former president as serial killer! Part of the American dream or myth is the idea embedded in childhood of the President as a kind of secular saint. Parents, Presidents, teachers, doctors, all belong to this community of people we would like to cherish and hold in high regard. It is a terrible bump to discover it is not the case. The notion that the world is run by various criminal gangs is very repugnant and hard to swallow. But WWII makes far more sense when viewed in that light. Give it try.

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